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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-ZA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Hi Stephen, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>As many have already said, if you are an African company use your resources wherever in the universe – I am fine with that. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I am referring to the following scenario: Company X is a member of Afrinic and gets resources. Copmany Y from India pays $10000000000 for this space, not a member of AFINIC and has no legitimate business in AFRICA. <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>So this takes care of companies being acquired – they’re still going to have a presence in AFRICA and I think that there is a policy to transfer resources to other RIRs if the purchasing company wished to do that. I haven’t read this policy, so don’t know the implications.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>My 2c<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif";color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri","sans-serif"'> Stephen Wilcox [mailto:steve.wilcox@ixreach.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 16 May 2014 05:12 PM<br><b>To:</b> Saul<br><b>Cc:</b> mje@posix.co.za; rpd@afrinic.net List<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [rpd] IPv4 policy on where space is used.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>Hi Saul, <o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal> so a successful African company that wishes to expand outside Africa is forced to go to APNIC, RIPE, etc who are unable to assign space as they have ran out. Isn't this an issue with regionalising resources for global business?<o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>Regards<br>Steve<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal style='margin-bottom:12.0pt'><o:p> </o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 16 May 2014 15:57, Saul <<a href="mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za" target="_blank">saul@enetworks.co.za</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Personally I am in favour of keeping our resources regional. I think that we<br>have all been offered large sums of money to get space and then sell it off<br>the continent.<br><br>But then its IP... does it really matter?<o:p></o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: <a href="mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net">rpd-bounces@afrinic.net</a> [mailto:<a href="mailto:rpd-bounces@afrinic.net">rpd-bounces@afrinic.net</a>] On Behalf Of<br>Mark Elkins<br>Sent: 15 May 2014 09:09 PM<br>To: <a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br>Subject: [rpd] IPv4 policy on where space is used.<br><br>On Thu, 2014-05-15 at 21:46 +0400, Kofi ansa akufo wrote:<br>> ....the resource was going out of the region....<br><br><br>As far as I am aware, the current requirement for getting address space is<br>that you are a company properly established (all legal - as such) in Africa.<br>There is currently no policy (except with the last /8) that states the<br>resources you get have to be used in Africa....<br><br>This might be good.... (get rid of all the IPv4, start using IPv6) or Bad...<br>(we are doing *what* with our resources???)<br><br>Maybe some policy needs to be designed - how do people feel...<br><br>--<br>Mark James ELKINS - Posix Systems - (South) Africa<br><a href="mailto:mje@posix.co.za">mje@posix.co.za</a> Tel: +27.128070590 Cell: +27.826010496<br>For fast, reliable, low cost Internet in ZA: <a href="https://ftth.posix.co.za">https://ftth.posix.co.za</a><o:p></o:p></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal>_______________________________________________<br>rpd mailing list<br><a href="mailto:rpd@afrinic.net">rpd@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo.cgi/rpd</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><br><br clear=all><o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></div></div></div></body></html>