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Sunday Folayan sfolayan at
Sun Jun 23 11:47:59 UTC 2013

Thanks for your apology Jackson, it is accepted. Lets debate.

Let me summarily dispell your fear which is the reason for you opposition.

It is much easier for any South African or Nigerian business to get IP
addresses and then move it out of Africa. A serious business can yet buy
African businesses because of their IP resources. I prefer a South African
or Nigerian university having it instead of a business that will not
benefit africa in the near future.

I will rather empower universities. It is an investment whose returns will
compound. It is a hard choice but a necessary one.

Remember ... Africa need not always play catchup. We can equally leapfrog.
I love the news and testimony of people who have been to Rwanda.

 On 23 Jun 2013 10:58, "Jackson Muthili" <jacksonmuthi at> wrote:

> I am sorry my emotion overtake substance of discussion. It show
> passion I have as I oppose the policy.
> Sorry Andre et Sunday.
> Now I grow up and back to point:
> One. I insist that burning our IP quickly to encourage fast IPV6
> deployment is no good idea. What happened when IPV6 takes much long
> time period globally for deployment? Like 20 to 30 years from this
> point? Internet and connection will be depend on IPV4 which now is
> over and difficult (expensive) to get from broker and market.
> Effect? Expensive to deploy and deliver internet.
> Effect? Expense move to consumer.
> Effect? Cost of communication go higher AGAIN.
> Two. I insist South Afrika Universities (and even Nigeria ones) are in
> an advantage because of critical masses in both money and numbers.
> Those two country will consume entire IPV4 when they want under this
> policy. This took us back to my point one when others universities now
> want to connect and even want IPV6 which now still depend on IPv4 to
> double stack because IPV6 dont communcate to IPV4 without IPV4. Expert
> correct me here.
> This proposal I strongly OPPOSE.
> Let university be treat like other consumer of Afrinic and provide
> accountability of their requirement.
> It can b interesting when I see data of how many IP has South afrikan
> university compare with other university in afrika.
> My 2 cent.
> Jack
> On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 11:48 AM, Emile Milandou <emilemilan at>
> wrote:
> > Jack,
> >
> > On Sat, Jun 22, 2013 at 5:24 AM, Jackson Muthili <jacksonmuthi at
> >
> > wrote:
> >>
> >> >
> >> Let us take a slow steady transition not Africa haters Sunday and
> >> Andrew who want to ditch their people into hole and burn continents
> >> IPV4.
> >
> >
> > I like your firsts paragraph's comment, but I disagreed totaly with your
> > last one. The debate should remain focussed on the idea behind the
> proposal
> > but not pointing the authors.
> >
> > Please keep personnal what you think about people. I am sure that I am
> not
> > the only one thinking that such attitudes should not be allowed on RPD
> list,
> > they should merely be reprimanded.
> >
> > Rgds,
> > Emile
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