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[AFRINIC-rpd] Update to Proposal "AFRINIC Whois Database Clean-up"
mje at posix.co.za
Tue Oct 16 11:41:01 UTC 2012
Whilst reading this - a quick question.
How many resource holders are there vs how many of these have
'my.afrinic' accounts. (How many resource holders don't have
I somewhat believe that all new resource holders should have at least
one (if not all) contact in the my.afrinic system as part of the process
of being allocated resources.
(I'd gently encourage all resource holders to do the same too)
Then there should be some way of gentle persuasion in getting my.afrinic
contacts to login at least once a year to check their details - perhaps
a 'captcha' that must validate? (sitting on the same page as their
current details). Perhaps tied in to paying their account?
Naïve hope that people will update incorrect details if taken to the
On Tue, 2012-10-16 at 13:29 +0300, Ernest - (AfriNIC) wrote:
> The author of the proposal "AFRINIC Whois Database Clean-up" has
> submitted a first revision to the proposal, available at:
> Proposal text follows:
> Unique identifier: AFPUB-2012-GEN-001-DRAFT-02
> Draft Policy Name: AFRINIC Whois Database Clean-up
> Author: Jean Robert Hountomey
> 1.0 Summary of the Problem Being Addressed by this Policy Proposal
> The African network infrastructure is growing with changes and
> extensions. This growth has brought changes in telecommunication and
> Internet infrastructure.
> With the emergence of new operators, mergers and acquisitions, the
> dynamism brought by the penetration of Internet technology has
> required organizational changes with job rotation. The need for
> accurate whois data has been in the news for years all over the world.
> Inaccurate data is still present in the AfriNIC whois database
> because changes have occurred in organizations (point of contact,
> contact information etc.) and object owners have not updated their
> records. The result is a “No response” from “whois” contacts listed
> in the AfriNIC Database.
> 2.0 Summary of How this Proposal Addresses the Problem
> This proposal asks AfriNIC to maintain accuracy through a
> periodical database clean up. Furthermore, at least once a year or
> at the renewal of resources, AfriNIC staff should conduct a whois
> database information validation.
> 3.0 The Proposal
> AfriNIC members are committed through the RSA to maintain their data
> and keep it accurate. AfriNIC will then maintain accuracy of whois
> information through periodical database clean up.
> 3.1 Cleanup
> 3.1.1 General Database Cleanup: At the ratification of this policy,
> AfriNIC staff will conduct a first cleanup by asking all POC present
> except those who received their objects in less than a year to
> confirm their POC information. We leave to AfriNIC staff the
> discretion to use any communication tool they find useful for this
> 3.1.2 Annual Clean up: After the first cleanup, AfriNIC will conduct
> a cleanup one time a year. We leave to AfriNIC's staff to define the
> 3.1.3 At the request of additional resources or services, AfriNIC
> staff will ask the organization to update its records.
> 3.2 Steps
> 3.2.1 AfriNIC staff will ask members to confirm accuracy of their
> records in the Whois database in a month’s timeframe when contacted
> by email.
> 3.2.2 After one month, AfriNIC Staff will use any communication
> tools at their discretion to contact those who have not answered or
> those whose email has bounced back.
> 3.2.3 After a month of unresponsive response, the record will be
> marked invalid.
> 3.2.4 AfriNIC may publish a report twice a year about number
> resources with invalid POC.
> 3.2.5 One year after the first contact initiation, if the data is
> still not accurate and the organization has failed to respond to the
> call to resolve the
> data inconsistency, AfriNIC will claim the number resources back.
> 4.0 Situation within other RIRs
> ARIN conducts an annual POC (point of contact) validation process:
> At APNIC, there was a similar policy proposed that did not reach
> consensus and was withdrawn by the author.
> Jean Robert Hountomey wrote thus on 5/8/12 1:20 PM:
> >>> 3.2 Steps
> >>> 3.2.1 Members will have to confirm accuracy of their records in the
> >>> Whois database in a month’s timeframe when contacted by email.
> >>> 3.2.2 After one month, AfriNIC will make phone calls, send faxes for
> >>> those who have not answered or those whose email has bounced back.
> >>> 3.2.3 After a month of unresponsive response, the record will be
> >>> marked
> >>> invalid.
> >> I think that phoning and faxing are likely to be impractical. The
> >> staff may be able to provide input here.
> > May be:
> > "AfriNIC Staff will use any communication tools at their discretion
> > to contact those who have not answered or those whose email has
> > bounced back."
> > There are several issues.
> > 1- (Legal please help). In most African countries' legal frameworks,
> > there is no provision about email. The consequence is that some
> > people in ORGs tell you to call, to send them a fax or a mail for
> > them to take action.
> > 2- There are some entities that haven't update their phone and fax
> > records after a major telecom infrastructure change, adding one or
> > two digits to the phone system, in the country. So Phone and Fax
> > may not work too.
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