[AfriNIC-rpd] Definitions of LIR versus End User

[Jackson Muthili]

On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Alston <alston.networks at gmail.com>wrote:

> See Badru's post and my response to him.
>
> A University does NOT assign IP's to its students by those definitions.
>  The student has no administrative control over the IP address, the IP
> address is not a permanent assignment, it is a DHCP allocation.  The
> student cannot route the IP address, they cannot choose how they use it,
> there is no registration of an IP address to a student, therefore, no, they
> actually don't assign to students.
>
> By AfriNIC's rules an LIR is responsible for updating the records to
> indicate who they assign to, if you consider a student a customer and
> consider that an LIR assignment, by AfriNIC's rules the university would be
> responsible for registering in the database an IP assignment per student.
>  Good luck with that.
>

*
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*Definition of End User does not use this reasoning you put here.*
*
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*end-users request address space for their internal use in running their
own networks, but not for sub-delegation or reassignment of those addresses
outside their organization.*
*
*
*So, since students are not part of the organization of a university. If
you give their network device IP address, you are no longer End User. Since
no other category exist, you are LIR.*
*
*
*Cheers*
*JM*



> Andrew
>
>
> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Jackson Muthili <jacksonmuthi at gmail.com>wrote:
>
>>
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>> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Andrew Alston <alston.networks at gmail.com
>> > wrote:
>>
>>> Hi JM,
>>>
>>> Yes however, that definition is currently clearly not adequate
>>> considering the amount of debate about what qualifies as inside/outside
>>> their organization :)
>>>
>>> Consider a bank, that has multiple departments, all adminned by central
>>> IP, in my mind, thats an end user
>>>
>>>
>>
>> *A bank don't provide internet to its customers. It only provide to
>> staff to do its job. It is an End user when I follow that definition in
>> policy.*
>>
>>
>> Consider a university, multiple faculties, all adminned by central IP, in
>>> my mind, thats an end user, however, others seem to believe that that
>>> somehow makes them an LIR.
>>>
>>
>>
>> *A university provide internet to to its customers (students). That
>> makes it LIR, following the same definition.*
>>
>> *Cheers*
>> *JM*
>>
>>
>>
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