<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 3:01 PM, Andrew Alston <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alston.networks@gmail.com" target="_blank">alston.networks@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex">
See Badru's post and my response to him.<div><br></div><div>A University does NOT assign IP's to its students by those definitions. The student has no administrative control over the IP address, the IP address is not a permanent assignment, it is a DHCP allocation. The student cannot route the IP address, they cannot choose how they use it, there is no registration of an IP address to a student, therefore, no, they actually don't assign to students.</div>
<div><br></div><div>By AfriNIC's rules an LIR is responsible for updating the records to indicate who they assign to, if you consider a student a customer and consider that an LIR assignment, by AfriNIC's rules the university would be responsible for registering in the database an IP assignment per student. Good luck with that.</div>
</blockquote><div><br></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3366ff"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3366ff"><b>Definition of End User does not use this reasoning you put here.</b></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3366ff"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3366ff"><b><u>end-users request address space for their internal use in
running their own networks, but not for sub-delegation or reassignment
of those addresses outside their organization</u>.</b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3366ff"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3366ff"><b>So, since students are not part of the organization of a university. If you give their network device IP address, you are no longer End User. Since no other category exist, you are LIR.</b></font></div>
<div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3366ff"><b><br></b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3366ff"><b>Cheers</b></font></div><div><font class="Apple-style-span" color="#3366ff"><b>JM</b></font></div>
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<div><br></div><div>Andrew</div><div><br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Jackson Muthili <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:jacksonmuthi@gmail.com" target="_blank">jacksonmuthi@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div>On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Andrew Alston <span dir="ltr"><<a href="mailto:alston.networks@gmail.com" target="_blank">alston.networks@gmail.com</a>></span> wrote:<br>
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<div style="word-wrap:break-word">Hi JM,<div><br></div><div>Yes however, that definition is currently clearly not adequate considering the amount of debate about what qualifies as inside/outside their organization :)</div>
<div><br></div><div>Consider a bank, that has multiple departments, all adminned by central IP, in my mind, thats an end user</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><font color="#ff6666"><b>A bank don't provide internet to its customers. It only provide to staff to do its job. It is an End user when I follow that definition in policy.</b></font></div>
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<div> </div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word"><div></div><div>Consider a university, multiple faculties, all adminned by central IP, in my mind, thats an end user, however, others seem to believe that that somehow makes them an LIR.</div>
</div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div></div><div><font color="#ff6666"><b>A university provide internet to to its customers (students). That makes it LIR, following the same definition.</b></font></div>
<div><br></div><div><b><font color="#ff6666">Cheers</font></b></div><span><font color="#888888"><div><b><font color="#ff6666">JM</font></b></div><div><br></div><div><br></div></font></span></div>
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