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[AfriNIC-rpd] Definitions of LIR versus End User

Andrew Alston alston.networks at
Mon Jul 23 12:01:03 UTC 2012

See Badru's post and my response to him.

A University does NOT assign IP's to its students by those definitions.
 The student has no administrative control over the IP address, the IP
address is not a permanent assignment, it is a DHCP allocation.  The
student cannot route the IP address, they cannot choose how they use it,
there is no registration of an IP address to a student, therefore, no, they
actually don't assign to students.

By AfriNIC's rules an LIR is responsible for updating the records to
indicate who they assign to, if you consider a student a customer and
consider that an LIR assignment, by AfriNIC's rules the university would be
responsible for registering in the database an IP assignment per student.
 Good luck with that.


On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 1:55 PM, Jackson Muthili <jacksonmuthi at>wrote:

> On Mon, Jul 23, 2012 at 2:46 PM, Andrew Alston <alston.networks at>wrote:
>> Hi JM,
>> Yes however, that definition is currently clearly not adequate
>> considering the amount of debate about what qualifies as inside/outside
>> their organization :)
>> Consider a bank, that has multiple departments, all adminned by central
>> IP, in my mind, thats an end user
> *A bank don't provide internet to its customers. It only provide to staff
> to do its job. It is an End user when I follow that definition in policy.*
> Consider a university, multiple faculties, all adminned by central IP, in
>> my mind, thats an end user, however, others seem to believe that that
>> somehow makes them an LIR.
> *A university provide internet to to its customers (students). That makes
> it LIR, following the same definition.*
> *Cheers*
> *JM*
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