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[AfriNIC-rpd] Policy Proposal: End user classification for Universities

Andrew Alston alston.networks at
Fri Jun 29 16:44:31 UTC 2012

On Fri, Jun 29, 2012 at 2:25 PM, Owen DeLong <owen at> wrote:

> On Jun 29, 2012, at 12:39 AM, Guy Antony Halse wrote:
> > On Thu 2012-06-28 (17:48), Owen DeLong wrote:
> >>   In actual fact, a University IS an LIR and the fees ARE warranted
> >
> > This might be a moot point, but I think you are making the mistake of
> taking
> > the structure of North American and/or European universities and assuming
> > that it applies universally.  In the process, you're confusing the
> concepts
> > of academic freedom and autonomy.
> >
> > In South Africa (I can't speak for other countries) the faculties of a
> > university enjoy academic freedom (in fact, it is protected
> constitutionally
> > and legally through Act 101 of 1997), but they do not have autonomy.
>  There
> > is a single Institutional Statute that defines a public higher
> educational
> > institution, and a single resulting governance structure.
> Perhaps, but perhaps not...
> Perhaps universities do provide connectivity to their student and/or
> faculty
> residential facilities and the networks within those facilities are owned,
> managed, and operated by the individual resident(s) and not the
> university's
> IT staff.
> If you are telling me that the above is not the case throughout all of
> Africa,
> then I will accept that I do, indeed, have a potentially misguided concept
> of
> what universities do in Africa.
> Owen
> That is not the case in any university I have dealt with in South Africa,
and thats pretty much all of them.  Don't know about the rest of the
universities in Africa, but the residence networks in South African
universities are deployed, operated and managed by the IT departments.  The
IT departments also own all the switching and routing gear involved and
manage it.

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