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[AfriNIC-rpd] abuse contact information in whois database (AFPUB-2010-GEN-002)

Tobias Knecht tk at
Thu Jun 17 00:30:51 UTC 2010

>> bulk whois is as I know not available in the AfriNIC region. And
>> even if it would be able, it would be to complicated and expensive
>> (RIPE was selling this service) for reporters to use it and
>> implement it. The barrier would be to high to reports abusive
>> behavior and that would be the wrong way.
> Regardless of how noble your cause may be I don't think that free 
> unlimited queries against the whois must be permitted. This is in
> fact an operational issue and thus outside the scope of policy
> discussions - that said:-

You are right. So I think we should stop talking about that, because
this is not bringing us to an solution and it is not the kicker for this

> If you have a specific operational requirement then discuss it with
> the AfriNIC staff - they are a friendly bunch :-) If they can
> accommodate you then I'm sure they will but if your requirement has
> some financial impact on the running of AfriNIC then I think that
> AfriNIC board would be well within their rights to recover the costs
> from you.

It's not only about us. It is about ISPs who want to help other ISPs by
sending them data. The barrier to do so is to high at the moment. And
abuse departments complain about the lack of information. So why is this
barrier that high? Because there is no easy to use solution and why
should I invest so much time, asking for bulk access, talking to
them if they might be able to heĺp me for getting a free service up and
running? There is no reason absolutely not.

So the barrier is too high and we need to lower it to a level where it
is okay to use the data and offer it for free.



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