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[pdp-mg] Re: community - Re: [AfriNIC-rpd] About AFPUB-2010-GEN-001

sm+afrinic at sm+afrinic at
Fri Apr 9 10:25:28 UTC 2010

Hi Vincent,
At 23:10 08-04-10, Vincent Ngundi wrote:
>I would recommend that we have a "definitions section" in SM's 
>proposal that defines the various variants of "community".

I'll comment on this below.

>Yes, that is correct, the clarification is contained in the TOR. But 
>I guess we can make this more clearer in the main PDP document.

I'll make the change in Section 4.

> > Section 2.2 uses "member of the community" for
> > proposals.
>That refers to the global Internet community. Again, we may need to 
>be more explicit in the PDP.

I think that this could be left to Section 3 where it is explicitly 
stated that policies are developed openly.

> > Section 2.3 mentions that this mailing list is "open to
> > anyone from the community".
>Again, that refers to the global Internet community.

I used "Anyone may participate via the Internet or in person" for 
proposal discussions.  That also covers the mailing list.

> > Section 2.5 uses "before the community
> > endorses or rejects" for the face to face meeting.  That would be
> > AfriNIC community.
>That would be any member of the global Internet community present at 
>an AfriNIC face-to-face public policy meeting. We don't want to 
>develop AfriNIC policy in seclusion.
>Again, I recommend that we have a "definitions section" in SM's 
>proposal that defines the various variants of "community" and any 
>other relevant definitions.

This raises the question of how to define "AfriNIC 
community".  According to the AfriNIC website, AfriNIC "serves the 
African Internet Community".  AfriNIC is a Regional Internet Registry 
(RIR).  It uses the term "AfriNIC service region" to define the 
region.  We can view the AfriNIC community as anyone; i.e. anyone who 
has an interest can participate.  As you said above, AfriNIC policies 
are not developed in seclusion.  Anyone present at an AfriNIC 
face-to-face meeting is part of the AfriNIC community unless the 
person expresses the wish not to be part of the community. :-)

If we have to come up with a definition, we would have to discuss 
about whether the community is only open to people within the AfriNIC 
service region.  Having qualifications in a document about policy 
development can be a problem.  If anyone wants to suggest text for 
such a definition, I'll add it to the draft or else I'll leave it to 
AfriNIC to define that in its materials.

We are saying the same thing in different words for Section 2.5 
(existing PDP).  Section 3 of the proposal could be reworded as follows:

   All policies are developed by the Internet community following
   three principles: openness, transparency and fairness.  The
   community initiates and discusses the proposals.  If consensus
   is reached on the draft policy, it is recommended to the
   AfriNIC Board of Directors for adoption as a policy.

S. Moonesamy 

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