[DBWG] Order of DBM objects within whois.afrinic.net IRR DB

[Yogesh Chadee]

Hi,

The re-ordering is being done when an object is created or updated. We could simply stop doing it.

Kind regards,

Yogesh Chadee
Applications Unit Manager, AFRINIC Ltd. <https://www.afrinic.net/>+230 403 5100





> On 17 Dec 2019, at 19:28, Ben Maddison via DBWG <dbwg at afrinic.net <mailto:dbwg at afrinic.net>> wrote:

> 

> Given that other databases present attributes in the way that Patrick is requesting, it's hard to imagine a scenario where making this behavior change would break any user implementations.

> I agree that the reordering does render the remarks attribute fairly useless for its typical purpose.

> However, since this is (?) a purely cosmetic issue, I wouldn't recommend spending anything other than minimal cycles changing it. Perhaps staff could provide guidance on the kind of work this would require. 

> Fwiw yet another obscure query flag seems an utter waste of time to me. 

> 

> Cheers,

> 

> Ben

> 

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> From: Patrick Holahan <patrickh at tenet.ac.za <mailto:patrickh at tenet.ac.za>>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 17, 2019 5:06:46 PM

> To: Nishal Goburdhan <nishal at controlfreak.co.za <mailto:nishal at controlfreak.co.za>>

> Cc: dbwg at afrinic.net <mailto:dbwg at afrinic.net> <dbwg at afrinic.net <mailto:dbwg at afrinic.net>>

> Subject: Re: [DBWG] Order of DBM objects within whois.afrinic.net <http://whois.afrinic.net/> IRR DB

>  

> Hi Nishal, 

>  

> Unfortunately the response 3 months after the initial request only stated the below:

>  

> <snip>

> Hello Mr. Holahan,

>  

> I hope this email finds you well. Thank you for your valuable feedback and I am

> sorry it went unanswered for so long.

>  

> I see you write remarks about certain fields (in this case members:) on the

> following line when creating an object (in this case as-set:), and you expect

> the WHOIS output to therefore respect the order of fields as they were

> originally created for the remarks to be meaningful.

>  

> If we modify the default behaviour, it will affect all users of the WHOIS. We

> could instead add a flag to make this happen, as you rightly suggested.

>  

> However, for this change of behaviour of the WHOIS service, I would ask you to

> report the difficulties you are encountering along with your proposed solutions

> to the Database Working Group for consensus on the way forward:

>  

> https://afrinic.net/committees/database-wg <https://afrinic.net/committees/database-wg>

> </snip>

>  

> Regards 

> Patrick Holahan (TENET)

> Mobile: +27(79)523-5555 Fault Reporting: +27(21)763-7147 <mailto:+27(21)763-7147> or support at tenet.ac.za <mailto:support at tenet.ac.za>

>  

>  

>  

> From: Nishal Goburdhan <nishal at controlfreak.co.za <mailto:nishal at controlfreak.co.za>>

> Date: Tuesday, 17 December 2019 at 16:53

> To: Patrick Holahan <patrickh at tenet.ac.za <mailto:patrickh at tenet.ac.za>>

> Cc: <dbwg at afrinic.net <mailto:dbwg at afrinic.net>>

> Subject: Re: [DBWG] Order of DBM objects within whois.afrinic.net <http://whois.afrinic.net/> IRR DB

>  

> On 17 Dec 2019, at 16:45, Patrick Holahan wrote:

>  

> Hi DB WG folk,

>  

> I was advised to forward the below email through here along with an

> explanation as to why I wish it to work this way.

>  

> I think the email is pretty self-explanatory, advising that the order

> of the RIPE DB shows remarks in the order they were added to the

> object, rather than moving them and grouping them together. This

> allows you to understand what remark links with what part of the

> object.

>  

> this looks like a reasonable request.

> in addition to “take it to dbwg”, were you given any other comments.

> like why this could not be implemented?  or what problems it would

> create for the implementors?

>  

> —n.

>  

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