[Community-Discuss] AfriNIC Mailing CoC and Legal Suit Intimidations

Iyedi Goma iyedigoma at gmail.com
Fri Jun 24 11:54:52 UTC 2022

c est une veritable honte de croire qu ils vont finir par faire plier les
forces vives par la peur
c est une honte je pense que ceux qui sont en charge de la réglementation
des discussions doivent s'en charger et agir sans délais

Le ven. 24 juin 2022 à 06:55, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> a écrit :

> Hi Ronald
> You raise very important points and I would like to now call on the
> attension of AFRINIC management on this since the ammendments to the Code
> of Conduct are endorsed by we the community time after time through public
> consultation.
> We can therefore add your suggestions to the current AFRINIC code of
> conduct.
> I have faced such first hand attempts of intimidation myself and continue
> to face the same especially from Lu Heng and his stooges and yes-men but I
> am never bothered by it because our participation and opinions are based on
> objective facts or what you would call in legal terms *fair comments*.
> There have been occassional accusations of xenophobia, tribalism and
> racism on this lists as well by those who enjoy intimidating other
> participants.
> So something has to be done unless AFRINIC and whoever is responsible are
> happy with the current lack of community participation in the wake of all
> defamation accusation based intimidation.
> The Irony is that AFRINIC the organization and its members continue to
> face countless intimidations through courts considering the ammount of
> interim injuctions and ex-parte applications.
> And since most folk have a natural phonia for courts or legal proceedings,
> they end up in total silence. Courts are important institutions and we
> ought to embrace them but let no one threaten or intimidate anyone with
> suits as long us you got your facts and most importantly believe in
> freedoms of expressions and participation in public forum discourse.
> Cheers,
> Noah
> On Fri, 24 Jun 2022, 06:37 Ronald F. Guilmette, <rfg at tristatelogic.com>
> wrote:
>> In message <CAEqgTWY+dj+E+dtWV6pAjNhtCcw=E+rgog58Z0Hn=
>> 1Z6gdyAEA at mail.gmail.com>
>> Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>> >This forum is for public discourse and not intimidation.
>> Apparently not always.
>> Regards,
>> rfg
>> P.S.  I hope that someone who is more familiar with AFRINIC formalities
>> and
>> procedures will help me here.  I wish to make a formal proposal to amend
>> the AFRINIC Code Of Conduct, but I have no idea how to go about that, so
>> I need help.
>> Specifically, after having reviewed the Code Of Conduct that is online on
>> the AFRINIC web site just now, I see that it fails to specifically and
>> explicitly prohibit the making of threats of either (a) bodily harm or
>> (b) legal action, either against any individual and/or against the
>> membership or community as a whole.
>> The latter is something that we have all just now witnessed on this very
>> mailing list.  This is disgusting in the extreme, and is a clear and
>> unambiguous attempt to bully the entire community into silence via threats
>> of legal action.
>> Subject to the rules of various applicable African jurisdictions, anyone
>> is free to sue anyone else, at any time, and for any cause for which they
>> feel that they have a reasonable cause of action.  And anyone can do that,
>> at any time, *without* announcing their intentions on an AFRINIC mailing
>> list.  It is however highly and clearly inappropriate to post about such
>> legal actions, or to even make legal threats on any AFRINIC mailing list,
>> because any such legal actions, if they are ever brought at all, are
>> clearly private matters between the parties and their attorneys... private
>> matters which clearly do not involve the AFRINIC community as a whole.
>> It is my opinion that the current AFRINIC Code of Conduct does *not*
>> clearly
>> and unambiguously state that threats of either bodily harm or legal action
>> are violations of the Code of Conduct, and as a general principal I *do
>> not*
>> feel that there should now be any enforcement of the Code of Conduct
>> against
>> any behavior which is not already specifically and clearly prohibited by
>> the
>> current Code of Conduct.  (That, I think, would be unfair and a violation
>> of
>> due process.)  On that basis, I *do not* personally judge that
>> <tech at cloudinnovation.org> has comitted a violation of the current Code
>> of
>> conduct, as currently written, but I would urge the greatest possible
>> haste
>> in amending the CoC so as to make such threats, and indeed any and all
>> threats
>> a clear and specific violation of the CoC.
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