[Community-Discuss] AfriNIC Mailing CoC and Legal Suit Intimidations

Kossi Amessinou amessinoukossi at gmail.com
Fri Jun 24 12:13:32 UTC 2022

Bonjour à tous. Nous aînés doivent nous aider à régler cette histoire qui
ne valorise pas la communauté africaine.

Le ven. 24 juin 2022 à 12:56, Iyedi Goma <iyedigoma at gmail.com> a écrit :

> c est une veritable honte de croire qu ils vont finir par faire plier les
> forces vives par la peur
> c est une honte je pense que ceux qui sont en charge de la réglementation
> des discussions doivent s'en charger et agir sans délais
> Le ven. 24 juin 2022 à 06:55, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> a écrit :
>> Hi Ronald
>> You raise very important points and I would like to now call on the
>> attension of AFRINIC management on this since the ammendments to the Code
>> of Conduct are endorsed by we the community time after time through public
>> consultation.
>> We can therefore add your suggestions to the current AFRINIC code of
>> conduct.
>> I have faced such first hand attempts of intimidation myself and continue
>> to face the same especially from Lu Heng and his stooges and yes-men but I
>> am never bothered by it because our participation and opinions are based on
>> objective facts or what you would call in legal terms *fair comments*.
>> There have been occassional accusations of xenophobia, tribalism and
>> racism on this lists as well by those who enjoy intimidating other
>> participants.
>> So something has to be done unless AFRINIC and whoever is responsible are
>> happy with the current lack of community participation in the wake of all
>> defamation accusation based intimidation.
>> The Irony is that AFRINIC the organization and its members continue to
>> face countless intimidations through courts considering the ammount of
>> interim injuctions and ex-parte applications.
>> And since most folk have a natural phonia for courts or legal
>> proceedings, they end up in total silence. Courts are important
>> institutions and we ought to embrace them but let no one threaten or
>> intimidate anyone with suits as long us you got your facts and most
>> importantly believe in freedoms of expressions and participation in public
>> forum discourse.
>> Cheers,
>> Noah
>> On Fri, 24 Jun 2022, 06:37 Ronald F. Guilmette, <rfg at tristatelogic.com>
>> wrote:
>>> In message <CAEqgTWY+dj+E+dtWV6pAjNhtCcw=E+rgog58Z0Hn=
>>> 1Z6gdyAEA at mail.gmail.com>
>>> Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
>>> >This forum is for public discourse and not intimidation.
>>> Apparently not always.
>>> Regards,
>>> rfg
>>> P.S.  I hope that someone who is more familiar with AFRINIC formalities
>>> and
>>> procedures will help me here.  I wish to make a formal proposal to amend
>>> the AFRINIC Code Of Conduct, but I have no idea how to go about that, so
>>> I need help.
>>> Specifically, after having reviewed the Code Of Conduct that is online on
>>> the AFRINIC web site just now, I see that it fails to specifically and
>>> explicitly prohibit the making of threats of either (a) bodily harm or
>>> (b) legal action, either against any individual and/or against the
>>> membership or community as a whole.
>>> The latter is something that we have all just now witnessed on this very
>>> mailing list.  This is disgusting in the extreme, and is a clear and
>>> unambiguous attempt to bully the entire community into silence via
>>> threats
>>> of legal action.
>>> Subject to the rules of various applicable African jurisdictions, anyone
>>> is free to sue anyone else, at any time, and for any cause for which they
>>> feel that they have a reasonable cause of action.  And anyone can do
>>> that,
>>> at any time, *without* announcing their intentions on an AFRINIC mailing
>>> list.  It is however highly and clearly inappropriate to post about such
>>> legal actions, or to even make legal threats on any AFRINIC mailing list,
>>> because any such legal actions, if they are ever brought at all, are
>>> clearly private matters between the parties and their attorneys...
>>> private
>>> matters which clearly do not involve the AFRINIC community as a whole.
>>> It is my opinion that the current AFRINIC Code of Conduct does *not*
>>> clearly
>>> and unambiguously state that threats of either bodily harm or legal
>>> action
>>> are violations of the Code of Conduct, and as a general principal I *do
>>> not*
>>> feel that there should now be any enforcement of the Code of Conduct
>>> against
>>> any behavior which is not already specifically and clearly prohibited by
>>> the
>>> current Code of Conduct.  (That, I think, would be unfair and a
>>> violation of
>>> due process.)  On that basis, I *do not* personally judge that
>>> <tech at cloudinnovation.org> has comitted a violation of the current Code
>>> of
>>> conduct, as currently written, but I would urge the greatest possible
>>> haste
>>> in amending the CoC so as to make such threats, and indeed any and all
>>> threats
>>> a clear and specific violation of the CoC.
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