[Community-Discuss] Breach of the Code of Conduct by Mr Ronald Guilmette

[TIDJANI Mahamat Adoum]

J'espere que comme ca, on aura pu rendre une justice parfaite. Et il
faudrais que cela soit la derniere chance pour eviter une exclusion
definitive de a liste.

Le jeu. 25 févr. 2021 à 09:37, JORDI PALET MARTINEZ via Community-Discuss <
community-discuss at afrinic.net> a écrit :


> Hi Ronald,

>

> The point is not that you agree with the removal of the message. The point

> is that it is censorship, and this community should not allow it, because

> then it means in the future anything else could be removed.

>

> This list is not to "satisfy" crazy laws in any country, whatever is the

> country.

>

> None of the RIRs communities are subjected to the laws of any country

> which imply restricting freedom of expression, and if we have the risk of

> being in that situation in any RIR, then that RIR should be away from that

> country.

>

> If I need to criticize the rules of Mauritius because they are outdated

> and illogic and restrict freedom of expression, then AFRINIC will need to

> censor me, then I will litigate with AFRINIC, no doubt on that and I will

> keep continue criticizing whatever I believe is wrong from blogs, articles,

> newspapers, or whatever is in my hand.

>

> As a consequence, it is totally ridiculous that AFRINIC tries to censor

> anyone, and we must not accept it.

>

> Regards,

> Jordi

> @jordipalet

>

>

>

> El 25/2/21 8:56, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at tristatelogic.com> escribió:

>

>     In message <1526AB54-5720-4D1E-87E2-534844E239B4 at consulintel.es>,

>     JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote:

>

>     >Moreover, removing any posting from the mailing list archives is a

> clear

>     >attack to this community. This is called censorship. If AFRINIC, as an

>     >organization, is providing the service, it must be an open and

> transparent

>     >service, and that includes not making any kind of censorship.

>

>     I thank both Jordi and Mike Silber for their kind and constructive

>     comments.

>

>     I wish to say also that I personally am OK with having my prior

>     posting here scrubbed from the mailing list archives.  I understand

>     that there is some concern, well placed or not, within AFRINIC that

>     some of my comments may reflect badly on the organization itself and

>     might possibly have some effect on either the already ongoing

> litigation

>     or on potential future litigation... and I most certainly would not

>     desire anything that I have said, as a private citizen, to have any

>     negative effect upon AFRINIC's legal position.

>

>     After being duly informed that further contributions from me would be

>     moderated for a period of 30 days, I did some reading on this topic

>     of this legal offense known as "Scandalizing the Court".  I had to

>     educate myself about that, because we quite certainly have nothing

>     even remotely like that here in the U.S.

>

>     What I learned, among other things, is that such an offense continued

>     to exist, in England, Whales, and Scotland, until really quite

> recently,

>     i.e. the 2012-2013 time frame, but that since that time it has been

>     abolished in those judicial systems.  I also learned that this offense

>     continues to exist within many Commonwealth countries, apparently

>     including Mauritius.

>

>     It is not for me to opine on the question of whether my prior comments

>     do or do not satisfy all of the various legal elements of the crime of

>     "Scandalizing the Court", specifically as that crime is defined within

>     the legal system of Mauritius.  That question is most certainly not

>     within my area of expertise.  I would only offer the suggestion that

>     my prior comments may possibly not rise to the level of satisfying the

>     legal definition of that crime, and that even if they did, I would most

>     certainly plead for some mitigation and leniency at my sentencing,

>     based upon my ignorance of local law in this instance.  (And in any

>     event, as should be obvious, I cannot say that I am particularly

> worried

>     that Mauritian authorities would seek to have me extradited from the

>     U.S. to Mauritius, to face Mauritian justice for this particular crime,

>     and even if that remote possibility suddenly became probable, I might

>     simply choose to relocate myself to some national jurisdiction that

>     appears to be immune, at present, to such inter-national extradition

>     proceedings, e.g. someplace that appears on maps just to the left of

>     Kenya.)

>

>     With regards to my prior comments about individuals, I do apologize to

>     the community if any of these might have any effect on AFRINIC's legal

>     position.  It is my hope and belief that they should not and will not.

>     I speak only for myself.  Furthermore, I am quite certainly subject to

>     potential legal proceedings (e.g. for defamation) here in the United

>     States of America... by far the most litigious country on earth...  and

>     I am thus cautious in what I say and how I say it.  I have said no more

>     about individuals than I believe could be justified in open court,

> based

>     upon persuasive and abundant available hard evidence, much of which I

> have

>     already shared here.

>

>     Nontheless, I ask forgiveness from the community for my often

> intemperate

>     manner of speech, forgiveness which I hope will be forthcoming, given

> the

>     totality of the context.

>

>     I have sought, for well more than a year and a half now, simply to know

>     the truth, the whole truth, and nothing but the truth, at least with

>     respect to the corruption of the WHOIS data base.  Given this clear and

>     abiding quest, who among you can still be entirely unsympathetic to the

>     frustration that I feel, to still not know, even at this late date,

>     either how the data base came to be corrupted, or any of the

> particulars

>     about the one bit of actual litigation that has arisen from those

> still-

>     mysterious events.  My cup runneth over with a lack of information, and

>     after such an extended period of time in this state, I ask to be

> excused

>     for my more than ordinary lack of both temperance and patience.

>

>     That having been said, I accept without reservation the actions taken

>     in response to my recent comments, including both the removal of

>     inflamatory (and perhaps prejuduicial) postings of mine from the

> archives

>     as well as a 30-day moderation period.  I take no personal offense at

>     these actions, and they seem to me to be commensurate and proportional

>     responses.  I say this knowing, as I do, that as a citizen of the

>     United States, I am generally free to be more vocal in my defense of

>     AFRINIC and its interests, against both foreign interlopers and any

>     possible lethargy on the part of the local judiciary than AFRINIC

>     itself could prudently be.  I only hope that my unconstrained opinions

>     will be properly attributed to me alone.  If AFRINIC finds it either

>     necessary or convenient to take actions to further clarify the crisp

>     dividing line between itself and me, then I am perfectly OK with that.

>

>     Regards,

>     rfg

>

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