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[Sylvain Baya]

{warning: top-posting!}
Dear AfriNIC's Community,

...this is a pure "dialogue of deafs" :'-(

Shalom,
--sb.

Le jeudi 5 août 2021, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> a écrit :


>

>

> On Aug 5, 2021, at 04:44 , Sylvain Baya <abscoco at gmail.com> wrote:

>

> Dear AfriNIC's Community,

>

> Please see my comments below, inline...

>

> Le mardi 3 août 2021, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> a écrit :

>

>>

>>

>> On Aug 2, 2021, at 00:03 , Sylvain Baya <abscoco at gmail.com> wrote:

>>

>> Dear AfriNIC's Community,

>>

>> Please see my comments below, inline...

>>

>> Le samedi 31 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> a écrit :

>>>

>>>

>>> On Jul 30, 2021, at 15:14 , Sylvain Baya <abscoco at gmail.com> wrote:

>>>

>>> Dear AfriNIC's Community,

>>>

>>> Le mercredi 28 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <

>>> community-discuss at afrinic.net> a écrit :

>>>

>>>>

>>>>

>>>>>

>>>>>> [...]

>>>>>

>>>>>

>>> I have not forgotten, but we are not talking about reservation.

>>>

>>>

>> Hi Owen,

>> Thanks to take time to reply to my email, brother.

>>

>> ...so, *we*! i assume the same *we* you usually

>> use to call your team to support your personal  interpretation of the

>> facts?

>>

>>

>> No, we is you and I, the people engaged in this particular conversational

>> thread.

>>

>>

>>

>

> Hi Owen,

> Thanks for your clarification, brother.

>

> ...so, you try to impose to all others a particular

> theme?

>

>

> ??? I don’t try to impose anything. I simply made a statement about

> the nature of the items you and I were discussing. They are not

> reservations

> by the meaning contained any AFRINIC governing document.

>

> Please, sir, how can i be removed from your pool?

>

>

> I am very confused here. What pool do you speak of?

>

>

>

>>

>>>

>>> [...]

>>>

>>

>> We don’t do anything to interfere with or prevent end-users

>> or clients from seeking internet number resources from any

>> other source.

>>

>>

> ...please, sir, could you share your stats on the number of orgs, you have

> helped to become LIR

> since the time your org shipted from LIR to INRs

> seller? mini-RIR? or Global LIR?

>

>

> No. Doing so would violate the confidentiality of my clients and is not

> material to any

> legitimate discussion here.

>

> RFC7020 states:

>

> ~°~

> [...]

>

> In

>       cases where LIRs span multiple regions, those LIRs have

>       established relationships with multiple RIRs.

>

> [...]

> ~°~

>

> ...full part:

>

> ~°~

>

> Local IRs

>

>       Local Internet Registries (LIRs) are established through a

>       relationship with the body from which they received their

>       addresses, typically the RIR that serves the region in which they

>       operate, a parent LIR, or other number-allocating entity.  In

>       cases where LIRs span multiple regions, those LIRs have

>       established relationships with multiple RIRs.  LIRs perform IP

>       address allocation services for their customers, typically ISPs,

>       end users, or child LIRs (also known as "sub-LIRs").

>

> ~°~

> <https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7020>

>

>

> First, you seem to have missed this:

>

> Abstract

>

>    This document provides information about the current Internet Numbers

>    Registry System used in the distribution of globally unique Internet

>    Protocol (IP) address space and autonomous system (AS) numbers.

>

>    This document also provides information about the processes for

>    further evolution of the Internet Numbers Registry System.

>

>    This document replaces

> RFC 2050

> .

>

>    This document does not propose any changes to the current Internet

>    Numbers Registry System.  Rather, it documents the Internet Numbers

>    Registry System as it works today.

>

>

> Then as you have pointed out, it states “typically”. By definition,  this

> means that there

> are likely to exist atypical situations as well.

>

> There are, in fact, multiple entities operating in multiple regions, but

> only having

> relationships with a single RIR and there is nothing (outside of one

> LACNIC policy)

> that serves to hamper or restrict this behavior.

>

> Owen

>

>

>


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