{warning: top-posting!}<div>Dear AfriNIC's Community,<div><br></div><div>...this is a pure "dialogue of deafs" :'-(</div><div><br></div><div>Shalom, </div><div>--sb.<br><br>Le jeudi 5 août 2021, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 5, 2021, at 04:44 , Sylvain Baya <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" target="_blank">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Dear AfriNIC's Community, <div><br></div><div>Please see my comments below, inline...<br><br>Le mardi 3 août 2021, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><br><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Aug 2, 2021, at 00:03 , Sylvain Baya <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" target="_blank">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Dear AfriNIC's Community,<div><br>Please see my comments below, inline...<br><br>Le samedi 31 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com" target="_blank">owen@delong.com</a>> a écrit :<blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div>On Jul 30, 2021, at 15:14 , Sylvain Baya <<a href="mailto:abscoco@gmail.com" target="_blank">abscoco@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br><div>Dear AfriNIC's Community,<br><br>Le mercredi 28 juillet 2021, Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" target="_blank">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><wbr>> a écrit :<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><br><blockquote type="cite"><div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div class="gmail_quote"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><br></div>[...]</blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote><div><br></div>I have not forgotten, but we are not talking about reservation. </div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi Owen,</div><div>Thanks to take time to reply to my email, brother.</div><div><br></div><div>...so, *we*! i assume the same *we* you usually </div><div>use to call your team to support your personal interpretation of the facts?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>No, we is you and I, the people engaged in this particular conversational</div><div>thread.</div><div> </div><div> </div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>Hi Owen,</div><div>Thanks for your clarification, brother.</div><div><br></div><div>...so, you try to impose to all others a particular </div><div>theme?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>??? I don’t try to impose anything. I simply made a statement about</div><div>the nature of the items you and I were discussing. They are not reservations</div><div>by the meaning contained any AFRINIC governing document.</div><div><br></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div>Please, sir, how can i be removed from your pool?</div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>I am very confused here. What pool do you speak of?</div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><br></div><div>[...] <br></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></div></blockquote></div></blockquote></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space"><div><div><br></div>We don’t do anything to interfere with or prevent end-users</div><div>or clients from seeking internet number resources from any</div><div>other source.</div><div><br></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>...please, sir, could you share your stats on the number of orgs, you have helped to become LIR </div><div>since the time your org shipted from LIR to INRs </div><div>seller? mini-RIR? or Global LIR? </div></blockquote><div><br></div><div>No. Doing so would violate the confidentiality of my clients and is not material to any</div><div>legitimate discussion here.</div><div><br></div></div><div><blockquote type="cite"><div><div>RFC7020 states:</div><div><br></div><div>~°~</div><div>[...]</div><div><pre style="font-size:10.6667px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">In
cases where LIRs span multiple regions, those LIRs have
established relationships with multiple RIRs.</pre></div><div>[...]</div><div>~°~</div><div><br></div><div>...full part:</div><div><br></div><div>~°~</div><div><pre style="font-size:10.6667px;margin-top:0px;margin-bottom:0px">Local IRs
Local Internet Registries (LIRs) are established through a
relationship with the body from which they received their
addresses, typically the RIR that serves the region in which they
operate, a parent LIR, or other number-allocating entity. In
cases where LIRs span multiple regions, those LIRs have
established relationships with multiple RIRs. LIRs perform IP
address allocation services for their customers, typically ISPs,
end users, or child LIRs (also known as "sub-LIRs").</pre></div><div>~°~</div><div><<a href="https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc7020" target="_blank">https://tools.ietf.org/html/<wbr>rfc7020</a>></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div>First, you seem to have missed this:</div><div><br></div><blockquote style="margin:0 0 0 40px;border:none;padding:0px"><div><div>Abstract</div></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div> This document provides information about the current Internet Numbers</div></div><div><div> Registry System used in the distribution of globally unique Internet</div></div><div><div> Protocol (IP) address space and autonomous system (AS) numbers.</div></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div> This document also provides information about the processes for</div></div><div><div> further evolution of the Internet Numbers Registry System.</div></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div> This document replaces </div></div><div>RFC 2050</div><div><div>.</div></div><div><div><br></div></div><div><div> This document does not propose any changes to the current Internet</div></div><div><div> Numbers Registry System. Rather, it documents the Internet Numbers</div></div><div><div> Registry System as it works today.</div></div></blockquote><div><br>Then as you have pointed out, it states “typically”. By definition, this means that there</div><div>are likely to exist atypical situations as well.</div><div><br></div><div>There are, in fact, multiple entities operating in multiple regions, but only having</div><div>relationships with a single RIR and there is nothing (outside of one LACNIC policy)</div><div>that serves to hamper or restrict this behavior.</div><div><br></div><div>Owen</div><div><br></div><br></div></blockquote></div></div><br><br>-- <br>--<p>Best Regards !<br>__<br>baya.sylvain[AT cmNOG DOT cm]|<<a href="https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure">https://cmnog.cm/dokuwiki/Structure</a>><br>Subscribe to Mailing List: <<a href="https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/">https://lists.cmnog.cm/mailman/listinfo/cmnog/</a>><br>__<br>#LASAINTEBIBLE|#Romains15:33«Que LE #DIEU de #Paix soit avec vous tous! #Amen!»<br>#MaPrière est que tu naisses de nouveau. #Chrétiennement<br>«Comme une biche soupire après des courants d’eau, ainsi mon âme soupire après TOI, ô DIEU!»(#Psaumes42:2)<br><br></p>