<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto"><div dir="ltr">Mike, that’s fair, but that framework is also set up such that icann performs its functions related to the ASO entirely under policies and dirrctives issued to it by the NRO/ASO (although formally ratified by the ICANN board), and that’s why I used the term puppet. </div><div dir="ltr"><br></div><div dir="ltr">Owen</div><div dir="ltr"><br><blockquote type="cite">On Aug 2, 2021, at 01:42, Mike Silber <silber.mike@gmail.com> wrote:<br><br></blockquote></div><blockquote type="cite"><div dir="ltr"><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8">Hi Noah<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Without getting into the content of your mail and without endorsing the specific language chosen by Owen: The RIRs are independent and ICANN does not in any way direct or control the RIRs.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The RIRs chose to operate within the ICANN framework, however can move the NRO / ASO out of ICANN at any time (including moving the contract out of PTI as well).</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">So I would not characterise ICANN as “puppet” of the NRO - but rather a framework within which an independent NRO choses to operate. That may be a distinction without a difference - so I am not offended by Owen’s choice of words.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Mike<br class=""><div><br class=""><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On 2 Aug 2021, at 10:23, Noah <<a href="mailto:noah@neo.co.tz" class="">noah@neo.co.tz</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="auto" class="">Owen,<div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I have some questions for you...</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote" dir="auto"><div dir="ltr" class="gmail_attr">On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 20:43 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss, <<a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net" rel="noreferrer noreferrer" target="_blank" class="">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> wrote:<br class=""></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div style="word-wrap:break-word;line-break:after-white-space" class=""><div class=""><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">While people often mistake ICANN for some form of authority, the reality is that for number</div><div class="">resources, ICANN is a puppet at the end of the strings pulled by the NRO (which acts in the</div><div class="">role of ICANN ASO).</div></div></div></blockquote></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Your association with LARUS has really got you off the rails.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">No wonder Larus has created the so called purported organization called the *Number Resource Alliance* aka NRA whose website is <a href="https://www.nra.help/" target="_blank" rel="noreferrer" class="">https://www.nra.help/</a></div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Since you claim that ICANN is a puppet of the NRO, and not an authority, is that why your LARUS which is linked to Cloud Innovation Ltd created this so called *NRA* organisation.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Are IPv4 brokers now forming their own system? Against ICANN and the NRO? </div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">I ask because your sentiments that ICANN is a puppet are really wanting.</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class="">Cheers,</div><div dir="auto" class="">Noah</div><div dir="auto" class=""><br class=""></div><div dir="auto" class=""> </div></div></div>
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