[Community-Discuss] ICANN ( NRO ) vs LARUS (NRA)

[Mike Silber]

Hi Noah

Without getting into the content of your mail and without endorsing the specific language chosen by Owen: The RIRs are independent and ICANN does not in any way direct or control the RIRs.

The RIRs chose to operate within the ICANN framework, however can move the NRO / ASO out of ICANN at any time (including moving the contract out of PTI as well).

So I would not characterise ICANN as “puppet” of the NRO - but rather a framework within which an independent NRO choses to operate. That may be a distinction without a difference - so I am not offended by Owen’s choice of words.

Mike

> On 2 Aug 2021, at 10:23, Noah <noah at neo.co.tz> wrote:
> 
> Owen,
> 
> I have some questions for you...
> 
> On Sun, 1 Aug 2021, 20:43 Owen DeLong via Community-Discuss, <community-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>> wrote:
> 
> While people often mistake ICANN for some form of authority, the reality is that for number
> resources, ICANN is a puppet at the end of the strings pulled by the NRO (which acts in the
> role of ICANN ASO).
> 
> Your association with LARUS has really got you off the rails.
> 
> No wonder Larus has created the so called purported organization called the *Number Resource Alliance* aka NRA  whose website is  https://www.nra.help/ <https://www.nra.help/>
> 
> Since you claim that ICANN is a puppet of the NRO, and not an authority, is that why your LARUS which is linked to Cloud Innovation Ltd created this so called *NRA* organisation.
> 
> Are IPv4 brokers now forming their own system?  Against ICANN and the NRO? 
> 
> I ask because your sentiments that ICANN is a puppet are really wanting.
> 
> Cheers,
> Noah
> 
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