[Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC

[Noah]

Elad

The Code of Conduct is there to stop such defamation. Since its been
invoked, its a call to both you and Roland to calm down.

The reasons I am calling your back and forth exchange crap is because am on
other lists where I have seen you both go on each other just like you were
attempting to do here and its not new to some of us.

Let us have a civilized discourse for we are a polite community.

That is all am saying.

Noah

On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, 20:47 Elad Cohen, <elad at netstyle.io> wrote:


> Noah,

>

> All I'm doing is to respond to an organized defamation campaign against me.

>

> I take it as an offence when you reference my response as "crap" after my

> blood was spilled here in community-discuss mailing list for almost a year,

> without you raising your voice when my blood was spilled here for such long

> time. To the point that I needed to start a legal case against AfriNIC

> because my blood was spilled here.

>

> Kind Regards,

> Elad

> ------------------------------

> *From:* Noah <noah at neo.co.tz>

> *Sent:* Friday, October 30, 2020 7:36 PM

> *To:* Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke>

> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>;

> AFRINIC Communication <comms at afrinic.net>

> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks

> holders in AfriNIC

>

> Ali

>

> This two have been going on each other for a while now and for those on

> other lists like NANOG etc we have read enough of their crap esp when they

> go personal and its just that we didnt expect to see the same crap on the

> AFRINIC lists.

>

> So its good that AFRINIC invoked the CoC which can come in handy.

>

> Better they stick to issues if they both want further engagement with this

> polite and hospitable community.

>

> Noah

>

> On Fri, 30 Oct 2020, 15:58 Ali Hussein, <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:

>

> Great to see Afrinic finally taking action to curb this behavior.

>

> *Ali Hussein*

> *Digital Transformation *

>

> +254 0713 601113

>

> Twitter: @AliHKassim

>

> Skype: abu-jomo

>

> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim

>

> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a

> habit."  ~ Aristotle

>

>

> Sent from my iPad

>

> On 30 Oct 2020, at 2:33 PM, AFRINIC Communication <comms at afrinic.net>

> wrote:

>

> 

> Dear Mr Cohen,

>

> AFRINIC in its role to enforce the code of conduct on the community

> mailing list is issuing you your first written warning for the offensive

> behavior displayed against another member of the community list, namely Mr.

> Ronlad F. Guilmette on the thread titled “Notice to all the legacy

> netblocks holders in AfriNIC”

>

>

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003713.html

>

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003715.html

>

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003718.html

>

> You went on to continue with such behaviour after the AFRINIC

> communications team reminded the list of the code of conduct by sending out

> the following email

>

>

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003723.html

>

> In light of above, your behaviour has been deemed as offensive,

> discriminatory, and intimidating as it included personal attacks.This is in

> direct violation with Sections II and III of AFRINIC’s Code of Conduct.

> https://afrinic.net/code

>

> You are hereby reminded to abide by the AFRINIC Code of Conduct  when

> interacting with the AFRINIC community at all times.

>

> For more information please refer to the following blog.

> https://afrinic.net/20200903-code-of-conduct

>

> Please refrain from acting inappropriately on AFRINIC mailing lists again.

>

> AFRINIC Communications Team

>

> …………………………………………………………

>

> Cher Monsieur Cohen,

>

> AFRINIC dans le cadre de son action pour faire respecter le code de

> conduite sur la liste de diffusion communautaire vous adresse un premier

> avertissement écrit pour le comportement offensant  à l'encontre d'un autre

> membre de la liste communautaire, à savoir M. Ronlad F. Guilmette sur le

> fil intitulé "Notice to all the legacy netblocks holders in AfriNIC".

>

>

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003713.html

>

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003715.html

>

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003718.html

>

> Vous avez continué avec ce comportement même après que l'équipe de

> communication AFRINIC ait fait un rappel sur le code de conduite en

> envoyant le courriel suivant:

>

>

> https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/community-discuss/2020-October/003723.html

>

> À la lumière de ce qui précède, votre comportement a été perçu comme étant

>  offensant, discriminatoire et intimidant car il inclut des attaques

> personnelles. Ceci est en violation directe avec les sections II et III du

> code de conduite de l'AFRINIC : https://afrinic.net/code

>

> Il vous est rappelé de respecter le code de conduite AFRINIC  lorsque vous

> interagissez avec la communauté AFRINIC à tout moment.

>

> Pour plus d'informations, veuillez vous référer au blog suivant.

> https://afrinic.net/20200903-code-of-conduct

>

> Veuillez vous abstenir d'agir à nouveau de manière inappropriée sur les

> listes de diffusion AFRINIC.

>

> L’Equipe de Communications d’AFRINIC

>

>

>

>

>

> On 27 Oct 2020, at 17:57, Elad Cohen <elad at netstyle.io> wrote:

>

> "I have other things to attend to." - like cleaning pores?

> ------------------------------

> *From:* Ronald F. Guilmette <rfg at tristatelogic.com>

> *Sent:* Tuesday, October 27, 2020 3:03 PM

> *To:* community-discuss at afrinic.net <community-discuss at afrinic.net>

> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Notice to all the legacy netblocks

> holders in AfriNIC

>

> In message <995ECA50-E1DA-49EA-ACC0-54EDA4091D1A at afrinic.net>,

> AFRINIC Communication <comms at afrinic.net> wrote:

>

> >The Regional Internet Registry (RIR) system is a successful model of

> >industry self-regulation...

>

> I would be happy to debate the truth or falsehood of that proposition

> with you at some appropriate moment.  (Not just now.  I have other

> things to attend to.)

>

> It is likely true that the RIR system has served, like the Pax Americana

> of the late 20th century and the Pax Romana before it, to prevent all-out

> violent confrontations between otherwise opposing factions.  But this

> is not the only possible definition of the word "successful", and there

> have been glaring and evident problems... in the AFRINIC region, in the

> ARIN region, in the RIPE region, and elsewhere.  To simply and unilaterally

> declare that "This model of governance is good.  End of discusssion." is

> not entirely persuasive in the present context.

>

> And although the industry may view this model as having been fantastically

> successful at keeping various governments largely or entirely at bay and

> largely or entirely out of the Internet regulation business (which even

> I would agree is a profoundly Good Thing) the industry, such as it is,

> is going to have to come to terms someday with that fact that secrecy

> and the shrouding of every detail underneath a gigantic blanket of

> NDAs neither promotes good governance nor is compatible with the ever

> increasing dependency of society as a whole on this utility we call the

> Internet, a utility whose underlying business arrangement have, by design,

> been keep almost entirely opaque to the outside world.

>

> The present pandemic has only increased the dependency of society on the

> Internet, and thus it has also increased the need for more transparency

> into these private business arragements, in the public interest.

>

>

> Regards,

> rfg

>

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