[Community-Discuss] AFRINC being sued
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ
jordi.palet at consulintel.es
Thu Aug 20 11:00:29 UTC 2020
I don’t know if that has been done, but my guess is that after the data lost, AFRINIC should have taken actions to ask the resources-holders to re-submit copies of the documents if they want to keep the resources or services or even keep participating in member processes (even mailings lists).
(of course, if they only had legacy resources is not the case, but maybe they want to keep some services anyway …)
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 20/8/20 12:38, "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> escribió:
And this gets even more complicated.
Please remember that all attachments to all tickets pre a certain date at AfriNIC were lost in a data corruption incident, hence – if most of these organizations ever signed an RSA – AfriNIC almost certainly doesn’t have it. Also – when these transfers were initially done – no one asked the people who had the space transferred in to sign the RSA at that point that I know of, so if they DID sign it at the time of the inbound transfer, it’s probably gone, but chances are – they never did
It’s actually an interesting situation – since a vast amount of application data is also missing – and so the clauses in the RSA that state that you must use the space as applied for – well – who’s to know what the space was applied for – or the justifications given – the data for a ton of these applications is missing – gone forever.
Andrew
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Tks!
However, unless I got it wrong, and again, talking in general, when legacy resource-holders sign the RSA they are bound to it as well (never mind if you're are the source or the destination of the transfer).
Regards,
Jordi
@jordipalet
El 20/8/20 12:10, "Ronald F. Guilmette" <rfg at tristatelogic.com> escribió:
In message <BE531255-E610-4BEF-A8B7-268AECBC43CF at consulintel.es>,
JORDI PALET MARTINEZ <jordi.palet at consulintel.es> wrote:
>1) Were those transfers done following the Intra-RIR policy?
No. These are all ancient "legacy" allocations. The allocations were
awarded even before ARIN existed, let alone AFRINIC, which came along
many years after ARIN.
Regards,
rfg
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