[Community-Discuss] Complaint from staff member

Sun Mar 18 09:48:24 UTC 2018

In almost all country in the world, a man or woman  is INNOCENT UNTIL PROVE
GUILTY.
Mob justice feel very good but is not justice at all at all.

If we must grown as strong community, we must respect that principle, no
matter how big our wish for something to be true or false is. This is once
thing where we must follow process. Only that way can we emerge stronger
from this situation.

Again: INNOCENT UNTIL PROVE GUILTY.

2018-03-16 21:00 GMT+00:00 Lydia Akiriza <akiriza.lydia at gmail.com>:

> ++1
>
> On 15 Mar 2018 22:06, "Badru Ntege" <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:
>
>> @Owen
>>
>>
>> in the world of subjectivity the content can be read in any way its a
>> case of the Glass half full or Half empty.  However the fact the Chair
>> shared this content with a junior member of staff who reports to the CEO
>> needs no investigation as there's no way the content would exist to be
>> shared here.  if i was to use your terminology at that part "we are
>> actually separating electrons and producing plasmas".....
>>
>>
>> We all enjoy the world of "Paralysis through Analysis"  There are some
>> clearly glaring wrongs in this situation where if the individuals on the
>> board really cared for the office they hold, should step aside until they
>> are exonerated.
>>
>>
>> The Gender issues  from a staff member in the real world  would mean that
>> the staff member is also suspended immediately until the issue is
>> investigated.
>>
>>
>>  There is no room for that kind of language in AfrNIC period.
>>
>> We need to show zero tolerance on some issues while being fare.
>>
>>
>> Taking the current situation is not being fare to both parties.  We have
>> an apparently aggrieved long serving member of staff and we have an
>> accused long serving senior member of staff.   Until this is concluded
>> both should be treated equally.
>>
>>
>> For Board with all due respect i want to see more leadership.  We have
>> nine board members and one of them should have taken the helm until the
>> investigations are concluded.  That's good governance.
>>
>>
>> regards
>>
>>
>>
>> ------------------------------
>> *From:* Owen DeLong [owen at delong.com]
>> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:54 AM
>> *To:* DANIEL NANGHAKA
>> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC
>> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Complaint from staff member
>>
>> This is not true in the real world and it is not true in this case.
>>
>> You absolutely can have low-grade oxidation of hydrocarbons resulting in
>> smoke without reaching the flashpoint temperature whereupon emitted gasses
>> and nearby gasses are excited to such an extent as to start separating
>> electrons and producing plasmas. Only at such high temperatures (and with
>> an adequate supply of volatile gasses and oxygen) does one get fire.
>>
>> Otherwise, you can make quite a bit of smoke without making fire.
>>
>> In this case, whether the actual allegations have merit or not remains
>> completely unknown if we base it only on what has been posted publicly on
>> this list. If there is other evidence elsewhere, I don’t have access.
>>
>> The postings appear to be an attempt by certain board members to assist
>> the president in addressing an HR issue with the individual in question.
>> There’s nothing in what was posted to support an accusation of bullying,
>> harassment, or any form of sexual impropriety.
>>
>> Frankly, I’m not even sure that the supposed evidence presented rises to
>> the level of smoke, but I will let Badru defend his declaration there.
>>
>> Nonetheless, since there is an allegation, the allegation should be
>> seriously investigated and dealt with appropriately.
>>
>> I have my own opinion of the voracity of the allegation in question, but
>> I will keep that to myself until we see the results of the investigation.
>>
>> Owen
>>
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:06 , DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There cannot be smoke without fire.
>> ᐧ
>>
>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>
>>> @Badru
>>>
>>> I agree it’s not a small matter. However, what the CEO did is correct.
>>> He issued a statement. The Board is at the moment conflicted so may not be
>>> fair to expect them to respond immediately.  Not sure if the Board has a
>>> Governance Committee within it. If so then the Chairperson of that
>>> Committee must issue a statement.
>>>
>>> There are clear procedures to follow in a well defined Corporate
>>> Governance environment.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>> *Principal*
>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>>>
>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>
>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but
>>> a habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 8:59 PM, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>> @Ali
>>>
>>> This is not a minor issue and thus the reason we are all waiting for our
>>> elected Board.
>>>
>>> Please note elected board,  CEO needs to be protected at this moment.
>>>
>>> If chair cannot comment then one o our other elected board should.
>>> That’s what accountability is about.
>>>
>>> Our organization must be protected above any individuals.
>>>
>>> Deep down I hope these are just allegations.
>>>
>>> Maybe governance committee should comment.
>>>
>>> But like others have mentioned we cannot wait. We need a clear way
>>> forward.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 20:38, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>>
>>> @Badru
>>>
>>> Allan is correct in responding. The CEO takes the lead on such issues.
>>> The Board can also respond. However I’d like to caution all of us not cast
>>> aspersions right now. This is a serious matter that impugns on the
>>> organization. The Board is a representation of the community in the
>>> organization. They have a fiduciary responsibility to uphold the
>>> organization’s mandate and good name.
>>>
>>> At this point there is a huge risk that needs to really be managed well.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>
>>> *Ali Hussein*
>>> *Principal*
>>> *Hussein & Associates*
>>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>>>
>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>
>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but
>>> a habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>>
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>
>>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 8:21 PM, DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> There is loss of trust in the board. This is the point where a critical
>>> review of AFRINIC mandate must be done.
>>>
>>> I think we need to clean up our house and not taking side clean our
>>> board.
>>>
>>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2018, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Thanks
>>>>
>>>> I still think at this stage until board pronounced itself.  Even CEO
>>>> should wait for board.
>>>>
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>
>>>> > On 13 Mar 2018, at 20:03, Alan Barrett <alan.barrett at afrinic.net>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> > Dear Badru,
>>>> >
>>>> > My response was from me as CEO.
>>>> >
>>>> > Alan Barrett
>>>> >
>>>>
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>> Nanghaka Daniel K.
>> Executive Director - ILICIT Africa / Chair - FOSSFA / Community Lead -
>> ISOC Uganda Chapter / Geo4Africa Lead / Organising Team - FOSS4G2018
>> Mobile +256 772 898298 <+256%20772%20898298> (Uganda)
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