[Community-Discuss] Complaint from staff member

Fri Mar 16 21:00:36 UTC 2018

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On 15 Mar 2018 22:06, "Badru Ntege" <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:

> @Owen
>
>
> in the world of subjectivity the content can be read in any way its a case
> of the Glass half full or Half empty.  However the fact the Chair shared
> this content with a junior member of staff who reports to the CEO needs no
> investigation as there's no way the content would exist to be shared here.
>  if i was to use your terminology at that part "we are actually separating
> electrons and producing plasmas".....
>
>
> We all enjoy the world of "Paralysis through Analysis"  There are some
> clearly glaring wrongs in this situation where if the individuals on the
> board really cared for the office they hold, should step aside until they
> are exonerated.
>
>
> The Gender issues  from a staff member in the real world  would mean that
> the staff member is also suspended immediately until the issue is
> investigated.
>
>
>  There is no room for that kind of language in AfrNIC period.
>
> We need to show zero tolerance on some issues while being fare.
>
>
> Taking the current situation is not being fare to both parties.  We have
> an apparently aggrieved long serving member of staff and we have an
> accused long serving senior member of staff.   Until this is concluded
> both should be treated equally.
>
>
> For Board with all due respect i want to see more leadership.  We have
> nine board members and one of them should have taken the helm until the
> investigations are concluded.  That's good governance.
>
>
> regards
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Owen DeLong [owen at delong.com]
> *Sent:* Thursday, March 15, 2018 8:54 AM
> *To:* DANIEL NANGHAKA
> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC
> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Complaint from staff member
>
> This is not true in the real world and it is not true in this case.
>
> You absolutely can have low-grade oxidation of hydrocarbons resulting in
> smoke without reaching the flashpoint temperature whereupon emitted gasses
> and nearby gasses are excited to such an extent as to start separating
> electrons and producing plasmas. Only at such high temperatures (and with
> an adequate supply of volatile gasses and oxygen) does one get fire.
>
> Otherwise, you can make quite a bit of smoke without making fire.
>
> In this case, whether the actual allegations have merit or not remains
> completely unknown if we base it only on what has been posted publicly on
> this list. If there is other evidence elsewhere, I don’t have access.
>
> The postings appear to be an attempt by certain board members to assist
> the president in addressing an HR issue with the individual in question.
> There’s nothing in what was posted to support an accusation of bullying,
> harassment, or any form of sexual impropriety.
>
> Frankly, I’m not even sure that the supposed evidence presented rises to
> the level of smoke, but I will let Badru defend his declaration there.
>
> Nonetheless, since there is an allegation, the allegation should be
> seriously investigated and dealt with appropriately.
>
> I have my own opinion of the voracity of the allegation in question, but I
> will keep that to myself until we see the results of the investigation.
>
> Owen
>
> On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:06 , DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com> wrote:
>
> There cannot be smoke without fire.
> ᐧ
>
> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>
>> @Badru
>>
>> I agree it’s not a small matter. However, what the CEO did is correct. He
>> issued a statement. The Board is at the moment conflicted so may not be
>> fair to expect them to respond immediately.  Not sure if the Board has a
>> Governance Committee within it. If so then the Chairperson of that
>> Committee must issue a statement.
>>
>> There are clear procedures to follow in a well defined Corporate
>> Governance environment.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>> *Principal*
>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>
>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
>> habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 8:59 PM, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> @Ali
>>
>> This is not a minor issue and thus the reason we are all waiting for our
>> elected Board.
>>
>> Please note elected board,  CEO needs to be protected at this moment.
>>
>> If chair cannot comment then one o our other elected board should. That’s
>> what accountability is about.
>>
>> Our organization must be protected above any individuals.
>>
>> Deep down I hope these are just allegations.
>>
>> Maybe governance committee should comment.
>>
>> But like others have mentioned we cannot wait. We need a clear way
>> forward.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 20:38, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>
>> @Badru
>>
>> Allan is correct in responding. The CEO takes the lead on such issues.
>> The Board can also respond. However I’d like to caution all of us not cast
>> aspersions right now. This is a serious matter that impugns on the
>> organization. The Board is a representation of the community in the
>> organization. They have a fiduciary responsibility to uphold the
>> organization’s mandate and good name.
>>
>> At this point there is a huge risk that needs to really be managed well.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> *Ali Hussein*
>> *Principal*
>> *Hussein & Associates*
>> +254 0713 601113 <+254%20713%20601113>
>>
>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>> Skype: abu-jomo
>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>
>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a
>> habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>
>>
>> Sent from my iPad
>>
>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 8:21 PM, DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> There is loss of trust in the board. This is the point where a critical
>> review of AFRINIC mandate must be done.
>>
>> I think we need to clean up our house and not taking side clean our board.
>>
>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2018, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks
>>>
>>> I still think at this stage until board pronounced itself.  Even CEO
>>> should wait for board.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>> > On 13 Mar 2018, at 20:03, Alan Barrett <alan.barrett at afrinic.net>
>>> wrote:
>>> >
>>> > Dear Badru,
>>> >
>>> > My response was from me as CEO.
>>> >
>>> > Alan Barrett
>>> >
>>>
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>>
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