[Community-Discuss] Complaint from staff member

Thu Mar 15 07:46:16 UTC 2018

Owen

Be that as it may. The fact remains a complaint has been made. It needs to be investigated.

Instead of us continuing with this line of conversation I’d humbly suggest the following:-

1. We let the committee mandated to look into this issue start and complete its work.

2. We forthwith stop discussing this matter until we see the report from the committee. Otherwise we run the risk of prejudicing the process.

3. Because of the #MeToo Movement a lot of unsavory behavior of the sexual harassment nature are coming to light and we MUST make sure we are on the right side of history. 

Justice must not only be done but be seen to be done and with speed.

Regards 

Ali Hussein
Principal
Hussein & Associates
+254 0713 601113 

Twitter: @AliHKassim
Skype: abu-jomo
LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim

"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit."  ~ Aristotle

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> On 15 Mar 2018, at 8:54 AM, Owen DeLong <owen at delong.com> wrote:
> 
> This is not true in the real world and it is not true in this case.
> 
> You absolutely can have low-grade oxidation of hydrocarbons resulting in smoke without reaching the flashpoint temperature whereupon emitted gasses and nearby gasses are excited to such an extent as to start separating electrons and producing plasmas. Only at such high temperatures (and with an adequate supply of volatile gasses and oxygen) does one get fire.
> 
> Otherwise, you can make quite a bit of smoke without making fire.
> 
> In this case, whether the actual allegations have merit or not remains completely unknown if we base it only on what has been posted publicly on this list. If there is other evidence elsewhere, I don’t have access.
> 
> The postings appear to be an attempt by certain board members to assist the president in addressing an HR issue with the individual in question. There’s nothing in what was posted to support an accusation of bullying, harassment, or any form of sexual impropriety.
> 
> Frankly, I’m not even sure that the supposed evidence presented rises to the level of smoke, but I will let Badru defend his declaration there.
> 
> Nonetheless, since there is an allegation, the allegation should be seriously investigated and dealt with appropriately.
> 
> I have my own opinion of the voracity of the allegation in question, but I will keep that to myself until we see the results of the investigation.
> 
> Owen
> 
>> On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:06 , DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com> wrote:
>> 
>> There cannot be smoke without fire. 
>> ᐧ
>> 
>>> On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>> @Badru
>>> 
>>> I agree it’s not a small matter. However, what the CEO did is correct. He issued a statement. The Board is at the moment conflicted so may not be fair to expect them to respond immediately.  Not sure if the Board has a Governance Committee within it. If so then the Chairperson of that Committee must issue a statement. 
>>> 
>>> There are clear procedures to follow in a well defined Corporate Governance environment.  
>>> 
>>> Regards 
>>> 
>>> Ali Hussein
>>> Principal
>>> Hussein & Associates
>>> +254 0713 601113 
>>> 
>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>> 
>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPad
>>> 
>>>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 8:59 PM, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> @Ali
>>>> 
>>>> This is not a minor issue and thus the reason we are all waiting for our elected Board.  
>>>> 
>>>> Please note elected board,  CEO needs to be protected at this moment.  
>>>> 
>>>> If chair cannot comment then one o our other elected board should. That’s what accountability is about. 
>>>> 
>>>> Our organization must be protected above any individuals. 
>>>> 
>>>> Deep down I hope these are just allegations. 
>>>> 
>>>> Maybe governance committee should comment.  
>>>> 
>>>> But like others have mentioned we cannot wait. We need a clear way forward. 
>>>> 
>>>> Regards 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 20:38, Ali Hussein <ali at hussein.me.ke> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>>> @Badru
>>>>> 
>>>>> Allan is correct in responding. The CEO takes the lead on such issues. The Board can also respond. However I’d like to caution all of us not cast aspersions right now. This is a serious matter that impugns on the organization. The Board is a representation of the community in the organization. They have a fiduciary responsibility to uphold the organization’s mandate and good name. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> At this point there is a huge risk that needs to really be managed well.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Ali Hussein
>>>>> Principal
>>>>> Hussein & Associates
>>>>> +254 0713 601113 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Twitter: @AliHKassim
>>>>> Skype: abu-jomo
>>>>> LinkedIn: http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim
>>>>> 
>>>>> "We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit."  ~ Aristotle
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from my iPad
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 13 Mar 2018, at 8:21 PM, DANIEL NANGHAKA <dndannang at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>>> There is loss of trust in the board. This is the point where a critical review of AFRINIC mandate must be done. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think we need to clean up our house and not taking side clean our board.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Tuesday, March 13, 2018, Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> I still think at this stage until board pronounced itself.  Even CEO should wait for board.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> > On 13 Mar 2018, at 20:03, Alan Barrett <alan.barrett at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Dear Badru,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > My response was from me as CEO.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Alan Barrett
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> 
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