<html><head><meta http-equiv="content-type" content="text/html; charset=utf-8"></head><body dir="auto">Owen<div><br></div><div>Be that as it may. The fact remains a complaint has been made. It needs to be investigated.</div><div><br></div><div>Instead of us continuing with this line of conversation I’d humbly suggest the following:-</div><div><br></div><div>1. We let the committee mandated to look into this issue start and complete its work.</div><div><br></div><div>2. We forthwith stop discussing this matter until we see the report from the committee. Otherwise we run the risk of prejudicing the process.</div><div><br></div><div>3. Because of the #MeToo Movement a lot of unsavory behavior of the sexual harassment nature are coming to light and we MUST make sure we are on the right side of history. </div><div><br></div><div>Justice must not only be done but be seen to be done and with speed.</div><div><br></div><div>Regards </div><div><br><div id="AppleMailSignature"><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><b>Principal</b></span></div><div><b style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; ">+254 0713 601113 </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: medium; -webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.296875); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.230469); -webkit-composition-frame-color: rgba(77, 128, 180, 0.230469); -webkit-text-size-adjust: auto; "><br></div><div><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></p><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);"><font></font></span><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">Skype: abu-jomo</span></p><p style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;"><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank">http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim</a></span></p><font><br></font></div><div><span style="background-color: rgba(255, 255, 255, 0);">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div><br></div><div><span style="-webkit-tap-highlight-color: rgba(26, 26, 26, 0.294118); -webkit-composition-fill-color: rgba(175, 192, 227, 0.231373);"><br></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div><div><br>On 15 Mar 2018, at 8:54 AM, Owen DeLong <<a href="mailto:owen@delong.com">owen@delong.com</a>> wrote:<br><br></div><blockquote type="cite"><div><meta http-equiv="Content-Type" content="text/html charset=utf-8">This is not true in the real world and it is not true in this case.<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">You absolutely can have low-grade oxidation of hydrocarbons resulting in smoke without reaching the flashpoint temperature whereupon emitted gasses and nearby gasses are excited to such an extent as to start separating electrons and producing plasmas. Only at such high temperatures (and with an adequate supply of volatile gasses and oxygen) does one get fire.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Otherwise, you can make quite a bit of smoke without making fire.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">In this case, whether the actual allegations have merit or not remains completely unknown if we base it only on what has been posted publicly on this list. If there is other evidence elsewhere, I don’t have access.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">The postings appear to be an attempt by certain board members to assist the president in addressing an HR issue with the individual in question. There’s nothing in what was posted to support an accusation of bullying, harassment, or any form of sexual impropriety.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Frankly, I’m not even sure that the supposed evidence presented rises to the level of smoke, but I will let Badru defend his declaration there.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Nonetheless, since there is an allegation, the allegation should be seriously investigated and dealt with appropriately.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I have my own opinion of the voracity of the allegation in question, but I will keep that to myself until we see the results of the investigation.</div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">Owen</div><div class=""><br class=""><div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">On Mar 13, 2018, at 11:06 , DANIEL NANGHAKA <<a href="mailto:dndannang@gmail.com" class="">dndannang@gmail.com</a>> wrote:</div><br class="Apple-interchange-newline"><div class=""><div dir="ltr" class=""><div class="gmail_default" style="font-size:small;color:#20124d">There cannot be smoke without fire. </div></div><div hspace="streak-pt-mark" style="max-height:1px" class=""><img alt="" style="width:0px;max-height:0px;overflow:hidden" src="https://mailfoogae.appspot.com/t?sender=aZG5kYW5uYW5nQGdtYWlsLmNvbQ%3D%3D&type=zerocontent&guid=58e9d020-d5fd-4da9-8d80-3e191f12c131" class=""><font color="#ffffff" size="1" class="">ᐧ</font></div><div class="gmail_extra"><br class=""><div class="gmail_quote">On Tue, Mar 13, 2018 at 2:02 PM, Ali Hussein <span dir="ltr" class=""><<a href="mailto:ali@hussein.me.ke" target="_blank" class="">ali@hussein.me.ke</a>></span> wrote:<br class=""><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0 0 0 .8ex;border-left:1px #ccc solid;padding-left:1ex"><div dir="auto" class="">@Badru<div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">I agree it’s not a small matter. However, what the CEO did is correct. He issued a statement. The Board is at the moment conflicted so may not be fair to expect them to respond immediately. Not sure if the Board has a Governance Committee within it. If so then the Chairperson of that Committee must issue a statement. </div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class="">There are clear procedures to follow in a well defined Corporate Governance environment. <br class=""><br class="">Regards </div><div class=""><span class=""><br class=""><div id="m_4268883917352440014AppleMailSignature" class=""><div class=""><span class=""><b class="">Ali Hussein</b></span></div><div class=""><span class=""><b class="">Principal</b></span></div><div class=""><b style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">Hussein & Associates</b></div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: inherit;" class=""><a href="tel:+254%20713%20601113" value="+254713601113" target="_blank" class="">+254 0713 601113</a> </div><div style="font-family: Helvetica; font-size: inherit;" class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">Twitter: @AliHKassim</span></div><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class=""><font class=""></font></span><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">Skype: abu-jomo</span></div><div style="margin: 0in 0in 0pt;" class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">LinkedIn: <a href="http://ke.linkedin.com/in/alihkassim" target="_blank" class="">http://ke.linkedin.<wbr class="">com/in/alihkassim</a></span></div><font class=""><br class=""></font></div><div class=""><span style="background-color:rgba(255,255,255,0)" class="">"We are what we repeatedly do. Excellence, therefore, is not an act but a habit." ~ Aristotle</span></div><div class=""><br class=""></div><div class=""><span class=""><br class=""></span></div>Sent from my iPad</div></span><div class=""><div class="h5"><div class=""><br class="">On 13 Mar 2018, at 8:59 PM, Badru Ntege <<a href="mailto:badru.ntege@nftconsult.com" target="_blank" class="">badru.ntege@nftconsult.com</a>> wrote:<br class=""><br class=""></div><blockquote type="cite" class=""><div class="">
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