[Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

Saul Stein saul at enetworks.co.za
Fri Jun 22 06:14:47 UTC 2018


Quite simply: we have a regional RIR and it should be efficient and serve 
the region.

If we all went elsewhere,

a)      What would the purpose be of AFRINICs existence

b)      how would AFRINIC get its funding?

What I don’t understand is why people want to run AFRINIC differently to the 
way you run your own business?

Just because uncomfortable questions are being asked, they get ignored and 
then then those that don’t like them ask for those people to leave the 
organisation… doesn’t make sense to me.

From: William Ametozion [mailto:wametozion at gmail.com]
Sent: 21 June 2018 07:32 PM
To: Saul Stein <saul at enetworks.co.za>
Cc: S Moonesamy <sm+afrinic at elandsys.com>; community-discuss at afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

Hi Saul,

> As mentioned, some gave up and went to RIPE - they won't have kept their 
> ticket numbers...

Since there is a precedence that some South African ISPs are going to RIPE, 
why not encourage your friend Andrew Alston to follow their example and join 
RIPE and stop being disruptive in AfriNIC Community?

William A.

On Jun 21, 2018 13:19, "Saul Stein" <saul at enetworks.co.za 
<mailto:saul at enetworks.co.za> > wrote:

Dear SM,
This should all be in your ticketing system. Any respectable ticketing
system should be able to report on calls that have taken longer than 3
days to resolve.
I could ask the South African ISPs to produce this list, however, and this
is becoming the issue, what's the point? We, as a membership base have
been complaining about this on the lists for some time and at the AGMMs.

People don't have the time to document every little thing that happens -
it takes time away from them doing what they need to do to make the
companies they work for functional.
As mentioned, some gave up and went to RIPE - they won't have kept their
ticket numbers...


-----Original Message-----
From: S Moonesamy [mailto:sm+afrinic at elandsys.com 
<mailto:sm%2Bafrinic at elandsys.com> ]
Sent: 21 June 2018 02:21 PM
To: Saul Stein <saul at enetworks.co.za <mailto:saul at enetworks.co.za> >; 
community-discuss at afrinic.net <mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)

Hi Saul,
At 03:44 AM 21-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote:
>Every ISP that I have spoken to complains about the service levels to
>the point that one or two actually got space from RIPE.

Can you please get me the ticket numbers, the dates of the complaints and
the dates the complaints were resolved (if applicable)?

S. Moonesamy

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