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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-ZA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>William, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Quite simply: we have a regional RIR and it should be efficient and serve the region.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>If we all went elsewhere, <o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>a)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What would the purpose be of AFRINICs existence<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoListParagraph style='text-indent:-18.0pt;mso-list:l0 level1 lfo1'><![if !supportLists]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><span style='mso-list:Ignore'>b)<span style='font:7.0pt "Times New Roman"'> </span></span></span><![endif]><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>how would AFRINIC get its funding?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>What I don’t understand is why people want to run AFRINIC differently to the way you run your own business?<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Just because uncomfortable questions are being asked, they get ignored and then then those that don’t like them ask for those people to leave the organisation… doesn’t make sense to me.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> William Ametozion [mailto:wametozion@gmail.com] <br><b>Sent:</b> 21 June 2018 07:32 PM<br><b>To:</b> Saul Stein <saul@enetworks.co.za><br><b>Cc:</b> S Moonesamy <sm+afrinic@elandsys.com>; community-discuss@afrinic.net<br><b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p>Hi Saul,<o:p></o:p></p><p>> As mentioned, some gave up and went to RIPE - they won't have kept their ticket numbers...<o:p></o:p></p><p>Since there is a precedence that some South African ISPs are going to RIPE, why not encourage your friend Andrew Alston to follow their example and join RIPE and stop being disruptive in AfriNIC Community?<o:p></o:p></p><p>William A.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal>On Jun 21, 2018 13:19, "Saul Stein" <<a href="mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za">saul@enetworks.co.za</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p><blockquote style='border:none;border-left:solid #CCCCCC 1.0pt;padding:0cm 0cm 0cm 6.0pt;margin-left:4.8pt;margin-right:0cm'><p class=MsoNormal>Dear SM, <br>This should all be in your ticketing system. Any respectable ticketing<br>system should be able to report on calls that have taken longer than 3<br>days to resolve.<br>I could ask the South African ISPs to produce this list, however, and this<br>is becoming the issue, what's the point? We, as a membership base have<br>been complaining about this on the lists for some time and at the AGMMs.<br><br>People don't have the time to document every little thing that happens -<br>it takes time away from them doing what they need to do to make the<br>companies they work for functional.<br>As mentioned, some gave up and went to RIPE - they won't have kept their<br>ticket numbers...<br><br>Saul<br><br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: S Moonesamy [mailto:<a href="mailto:sm%2Bafrinic@elandsys.com">sm+afrinic@elandsys.com</a>] <br>Sent: 21 June 2018 02:21 PM<br>To: Saul Stein <<a href="mailto:saul@enetworks.co.za">saul@enetworks.co.za</a>>; <a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net">community-discuss@afrinic.net</a><br>Subject: RE: [Community-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting (off-topic)<br><br>Hi Saul,<br>At 03:44 AM 21-06-2018, Saul Stein wrote:<br>>Every ISP that I have spoken to complains about the service levels to <br>>the point that one or two actually got space from RIPE.<br><br>Can you please get me the ticket numbers, the dates of the complaints and<br>the dates the complaints were resolved (if applicable)?<br><br>Regards,<br>S. Moonesamy <br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Community-Discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net">Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss" target="_blank">https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</a><o:p></o:p></p></blockquote></div></div></body></html>