[Community-Discuss] [Spam] Re: [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

Tue Jun 19 14:31:01 UTC 2018

Actually these questions and answers are rather interesting. We weren’t 
allowed to ask them at the AGMM, so I guess now is the time.

I am intrigued to see how much money is given to organisations that don’t 
seem to have accountability what they get.

From: Omo Oaiya [mailto:Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net]
Sent: 19 June 2018 04:11 PM
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
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Subject: [Spam] Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

Andrew,

I try to avoid you so I don’t get drawn into time-wasting discussions.   I 
guess I am reacting to your flippant disregard for AFRINIC origins and your 
attempt to disparage those that have worked to get us here.

On 19 Jun 2018, at 14:51, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com 
<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> > wrote:

Omo,

As a member that contributes fees to the organisation – at a rate of almost 
$50k a year – I have every single right in the world – to understand how 
that money is being spent.  And I will continue to ask – especially when an 
event is being held that is being paid for that is not on any event 
calendar.

I have not suggested you do not have the right to question.  I have queried 
their nature and more importantly the availability of the CEO to respond 
question by question.

While I realize that the organisation you work for – got their space on the 
back of a grant and didn’t even pay the allocation fee or the first few 
years of having it – and you are a small member – so its tiny amounts of 
money – others of us – actually would like to know where our cash is being 
spent to guide other decisions.

 I am a small member who does not expect this level of micromanagement from 
a CEO.

Andrew

From: Omo Oaiya [ <mailto:Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net> mailto:Omo.Oaiya at wacren.net]
Sent: 19 June 2018 16:47
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Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

This line of questioning is unnecessary and unbecoming.   I am surprised the 
CEO has time to respond to this.

Omo

On 19 Jun 2018, at 14:40, Andrew Alston < 
<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> 
wrote:

Sorry,

Last question – why is this event not on the AFRINIC Event calendar (or the 
ISOC event calendar)

Andrew

From: Alan Barrett [ <mailto:alan.barrett at afrinic.net> 
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Sent: 19 June 2018 16:31
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Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting

> On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:21, Andrew Alston < 
> <mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> 
> wrote:
>
> Alan,
>
> Does this include the cocktail sponsorship

The sponsorship is a lump sum. There is no additional or separate amount for 
a cocktail.

> – if it does – can we calculate as follows based on previous trips to work 
> out the approximate cost of attendance:
>
> Average cost per person in flights (based on previous financials) - 
> $2049.50
> Sponsorship $3000
> Accommodation while there since it’s a 2 day event - $500 odd dollars per 
> person (conservatively)
> 5 total people
>
> Cost to the membership for this – roughly $16k?

That sounds plausible, though it's more likely to be 4 people, not 5.

Alan Barrett

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