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</o:shapelayout></xml><![endif]--></head><body lang=EN-ZA link=blue vlink=purple><div class=WordSection1><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>Actually these questions and answers are rather interesting. We weren’t allowed to ask them at the AGMM, so I guess now is the time.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'>I am intrigued to see how much money is given to organisations that don’t seem to have accountability what they get.<o:p></o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif;color:#1F497D;mso-fareast-language:EN-US'><o:p> </o:p></span></p><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> Omo Oaiya [mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net] <br><b>Sent:</b> 19 June 2018 04:11 PM<br><b>To:</b> Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com><br><b>Cc:</b> community-discuss@afrinic.net; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <board@afrinic.net><br><b>Subject:</b> [Spam] Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><p class=MsoNormal>Andrew,<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal>I try to avoid you so I don’t get drawn into time-wasting discussions. I guess I am reacting to your flippant disregard for AFRINIC origins and your attempt to disparage those that have worked to get us here. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><p class=MsoNormal>On 19 Jun 2018, at 14:51, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Omo,<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>As a member that contributes fees to the organisation – at a rate of almost $50k a year – I have every single right in the world – to understand how that money is being spent. And I will continue to ask – especially when an event is being held that is being paid for that is not on any event calendar.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal>I have not suggested you do not have the right to question. I have queried their nature and more importantly the availability of the CEO to respond question by question. <o:p></o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>While I realize that the organisation you work for – got their space on the back of a grant and didn’t even pay the allocation fee or the first few years of having it – and you are a small member – so its tiny amounts of money – others of us – actually would like to know where our cash is being spent to guide other decisions.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><p class=MsoNormal> I am a small member who does not expect this level of micromanagement from a CEO.<o:p></o:p></p><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Omo Oaiya [<a href="mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:Omo.Oaiya@wacren.net</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>19 June 2018 16:47<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net"><span style='color:purple'>community-discuss@afrinic.net</span></a>; AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net"><span style='color:purple'>board@afrinic.net</span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>This line of questioning is unnecessary and unbecoming. I am surprised the CEO has time to respond to this.<o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Omo<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><blockquote style='margin-top:5.0pt;margin-bottom:5.0pt'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>On 19 Jun 2018, at 14:40, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com"><span style='color:purple'>Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</span></a>> wrote:<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div><div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Sorry,<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Last question – why is this event not on the AFRINIC Event calendar (or the ISOC event calendar)<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Andrew<o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div style='border:none;border-top:solid #E1E1E1 1.0pt;padding:3.0pt 0cm 0cm 0cm'><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><b><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>From:</span></b><span class=apple-converted-space><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> </span></span><span lang=EN-US style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'>Alan Barrett [<a href="mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net"><span style='color:purple'>mailto:alan.barrett@afrinic.net</span></a>]<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><b>Sent:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>19 June 2018 16:31<br><b>To:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><a href="mailto:community-discuss@afrinic.net"><span style='color:purple'>community-discuss@afrinic.net</span></a><br><b>Cc:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>AFRINIC Board of Directors' List <<a href="mailto:board@afrinic.net"><span style='color:purple'>board@afrinic.net</span></a>><br><b>Subject:</b><span class=apple-converted-space> </span>Re: [Community-Discuss] [Board-Discuss] Cotonou Meeting</span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'> <o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><br><br>> On 19 Jun 2018, at 17:21, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com"><span style='color:purple'>Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</span></a>> wrote:<br>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>> Alan,<br>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>> Does this include the cocktail sponsorship<span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br><br>The sponsorship is a lump sum. There is no additional or separate amount for a cocktail.<br><br>> – if it does – can we calculate as follows based on previous trips to work out the approximate cost of attendance:<br>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>> Average cost per person in flights (based on previous financials) - $2049.50<br>> Sponsorship $3000<br>> Accommodation while there since it’s a 2 day event - $500 odd dollars per person (conservatively)<br>> 5 total people<br>><span class=apple-converted-space> </span><br>> Cost to the membership for this – roughly $16k?<br><br>That sounds plausible, though it's more likely to be 4 people, not 5.<br><br>Alan Barrett<br><br><br>_______________________________________________<br>Community-Discuss mailing list<br><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net"><span style='color:purple'>Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</span></a><br><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss"><span style='color:purple'>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div><div><p class=MsoNormal><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'>_______________________________________________<br>Community-Discuss mailing list<br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="mailto:Community-Discuss@afrinic.net"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple'>Community-Discuss@afrinic.net</span></a></span><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif'><br></span><span style='font-size:11.0pt;font-family:"Calibri",sans-serif'><a href="https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss"><span style='font-size:9.0pt;font-family:"Helvetica",sans-serif;color:purple'>https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/community-discuss</span></a><o:p></o:p></span></p></div></div></blockquote></div></div></div></blockquote></div><p class=MsoNormal><o:p> </o:p></p></div></div></body></html>