[Community-Discuss] Questions about AfriNIC Allocations

Chevalier du Borg virtual.borg at gmail.com
Mon Dec 10 06:12:31 UTC 2018

Le dim. 9 déc. 2018 à 12:25, Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
a écrit :

> The concern here is not about ISPs getting asns - it is deeper than that.
> In order for the internet environment to thrive we need the potential for
> large scale interconnection that is predicated on companies having asns -
> and this includes enterprise customers across all sectors.

I agree with you. I think the current ASN policy make that difficult
I know you are not try to blame AFRINIC for this (even though it hard to
see it that way because of your timing).  I think it a matter of strategic
importance. As a former board member, did you not realise this issue? What
did you get the board and company to do about it?

> Interconnection and free traffic exchange is critical to the growth of the
> internet industry and our goals of getting to a majority of content being
> exchanged directly on the continent.  It is also critical to build the
> critical mass, a requirement to justify the investment in infrastructure
> such as data centers.

No disagreement here. Look to me the problem is deeper.

I would like to know what AFRINIC market analysis is. Membership
performance is best rate against that analyse. Will also be good to know
obstacles so the people in the community that are care can do something to

> Yes while my stats were proven wrong, it still deeply concerns me that
> when I compare our asn allocation stats to that of lacnic (the closest
> comparison to where afrinic and Africa is out of the other RIRs - you find
> that our ASN allocation rate year by year for many years is essentially
> flat - we hit 150 to 160 allocated every year - but there is no compounded
> growth that you see in LACNIC where they are allocation well over a
> thousand asns a year and the allocation numbers have been growing each year.
> It is also a concern to me that of the roughly 1600 asns allocated - of
> those less than 1200 are visible in the DFZ.

All valid concern. What do you propose should be done about this? I happy
to brainstorm and develop ideas. Maybe AFRINIC or any body else can

> Andrew
> Liquid Telecommunications - Group Head Of IP Strategy
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Chevalier du Borg <virtual.borg at gmail.com>
> *Sent:* Sunday, December 9, 2018 09:08
> *To:* Andrew Alston
> *Cc:* General Discussions of AFRINIC
> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about AfriNIC Allocations
> Le mar. 4 déc. 2018 à 11:26, Andrew Alston <
> Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> a écrit :
>> As AFRINIC has a mandate to promote Internet growth across the continent,
>> I really think it would be good to understand what their thoughts on this
>> are – and no – before I get jumped on – I am not blaming AFRINIC for the
>> drop – but it certainly does warrant questions being asked.
> Even though your stat have been prove to be wrong. As former board member
> and current operator, you should know that many small ISP in Africa do not
> meet the "multi-homing" criteria. So there is natural limit to potential
> number of  ASN.
> I have also meet many small ISP operator who have problem getting simple
> BGP with big operator. Maybe a skill problem for AFRINIC training team and
> AFNOG to address?
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