<div dir="ltr"><div dir="ltr"><br><br><div class="gmail_quote"><div dir="ltr">Le dim. 9 déc. 2018 à 12:25, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> a écrit :<br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex">
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<div>The concern here is not about ISPs getting asns - it is deeper than that.</div>
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<div style="direction:ltr">In order for the internet environment to thrive we need the potential for large scale interconnection that is predicated on companies having asns - and this includes enterprise customers across all sectors.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>I agree with you. I think the current ASN policy make that difficult</div><div>I know you are not try to blame AFRINIC for this (even though it hard to see it that way because of your timing). I think it a matter of strategic importance. As a former board member, did you not realise this issue? What did you get the board and company to do about it?</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div style="direction:ltr">
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<div style="direction:ltr">Interconnection and free traffic exchange is critical to the growth of the internet industry and our goals of getting to a majority of content being exchanged directly on the continent. It is also critical to build the critical
mass, a requirement to justify the investment in infrastructure such as data centers.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>No disagreement here. Look to me the problem is deeper.</div><div><br></div><div>I would like to know what AFRINIC market analysis is. Membership performance is best rate against that analyse. Will also be good to know obstacles so the people in the community that are care can do something to help.<br></div><div><br></div><div><br></div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div style="direction:ltr">
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<div style="direction:ltr">Yes while my stats were proven wrong, it still deeply concerns me that when I compare our asn allocation stats to that of lacnic (the closest comparison to where afrinic and Africa is out of the other RIRs - you find that our ASN
allocation rate year by year for many years is essentially flat - we hit 150 to 160 allocated every year - but there is no compounded growth that you see in LACNIC where they are allocation well over a thousand asns a year and the allocation numbers have been
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<div style="direction:ltr">It is also a concern to me that of the roughly 1600 asns allocated - of those less than 1200 are visible in the DFZ.</div></div></div></div></blockquote><div><br></div><div><br></div><div>All valid concern. What do you propose should be done about this? I happy to brainstorm and develop ideas. Maybe AFRINIC or any body else can implement.</div><div><br></div><div> </div><blockquote class="gmail_quote" style="margin:0px 0px 0px 0.8ex;border-left:1px solid rgb(204,204,204);padding-left:1ex"><div><div><div style="direction:ltr">
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<b>Sent:</b> Sunday, December 9, 2018 09:08<br>
<b>To:</b> Andrew Alston<br>
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<b>Subject:</b> Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about AfriNIC Allocations
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<div dir="ltr">Le mar. 4 déc. 2018 à 11:26, Andrew Alston <<a href="mailto:Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com" target="_blank">Andrew.Alston@liquidtelecom.com</a>> a écrit :<br>
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<p class="MsoNormal">As AFRINIC has a mandate to promote Internet growth across the continent, I really think it would be good to understand what their thoughts on this are – and no – before I get jumped on – I am not blaming AFRINIC for the drop – but it certainly
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<div>Even though your stat have been prove to be wrong. As former board member and current operator, you should know that many small ISP in Africa do not meet the "multi-homing" criteria. So there is natural limit to potential number of ASN.</div>
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<div>I have also meet many small ISP operator who have problem getting simple BGP with big operator. Maybe a skill problem for AFRINIC training team and AFNOG to address?</div>
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