[Community-Discuss] Questions about AfriNIC Allocations

Tue Dec 4 19:36:03 UTC 2018

Seun,

Firstly – my beliefs on the board process and the workings of the board are mine – and my opinions are my opinions – and there is nothing that stops me stating that in my *opinion* things are *deeply* flawed – and that I am prohibited from clarifying WHY I hope those opinions.  The counter argument to what you say is simple – if things ARENT problematic – then waiver the NDA – you should have nothing to hide.

As for my goals – my goals are to ensure that there is proper corporate governance and a board that is accountable to its members – and I openly and honestly believe that is not the case at the moment. I believe – very strongly – that this board has violated the principles of bottom up approach (Why has an SGMM not been called to solve the quorum problem with the AGMM?) – I believe that this board has failed on multiple counts as regards transparency – both since I left the board and while I was on it – and again – I am more than happy to back the latter if the board gives me permission to do so – publicly.

I have absolutely no obligation to communicate via the board – and considering my opinions on the current state of function of the board – zero trust in the effectiveness of that approach if I were to take it.
This is a member organization – and we are meant to operate in an open and transparent manner – part of transparency is the fact that people are free to voice their opinions – and concerns – openly and transparently – without such things being repressed.

Andrew

From: Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
Date: Tuesday, 4 December 2018 at 22:23
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
Cc: abel ELITCHA <kmw.elitcha at gmail.com>, General discussion of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about AfriNIC Allocations

Hello Andrew,

Let me attempt to respond to one of your comment which I think you continue to repeat:
Sent from my mobile
Kindly excuse brevity and typos

On Tue, 4 Dec 2018, 17:44 Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com> wrote:
 ....and other than the fact that I am bound by an NDA which prevents me revealing so many things I would love to talk about –

SO: As one who served with you on the Board, and while I acknowledge that there is always room for improvement on Board operations,  I encourage you to stop giving an impression that there are highly bad things on the Board that NDA has prevented you from saying.

As I have told you in the past and will repeat once again, if your goal and intention is indeed to have a better AFRINIC and if communicating that through public list may impact upon your NDA, please feel free to send them directly to the Board.

Regards

Andrew

From: Komi Elitcha <kmw.elitcha at gmail.com<mailto:kmw.elitcha at gmail.com>>
Date: Tuesday, 4 December 2018 at 19:34
To: Andrew Alston <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com<mailto:Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>>, "community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>" <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about AfriNIC Allocations

Andrew,
Could you please cross check your data  next time before alarming the world? Always trying to make the organization  looks bad  does not  serve  anybody. We expect high standard from former board members...

Thanks.

Le 04/12/2018 à 13:07, Andrew Alston a écrit :
That’s well interesting.

Yesterday – I pulled the afrinic-delegated-latest file – and it seems the latest link wasn’t updated or something, because the stats in the delegated file that I pulled yesterday – were VERY different from the latest file that I pulled today.

I’m pulling all the actual dated files now rather than the linked ones and will re-run the stats

Andrew

From: Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz><mailto:geier at geier.ne.tz>
Sent: 04 December 2018 15:55
To: community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Questions about AfriNIC Allocations

Hi,
see inline

On 04/12/2018 15:10, S Moonesamy wrote:
> Hi Andrew,
> At 11:24 PM 03-12-2018, Andrew Alston wrote:
>> Now – I realize this is still early December 2018 – but we’re almost
>> at the end of the year and unless there are a LOT of ASN’s about to be
>> issued – I see that AFRINIC is running at a lower ASN allocation rate
>> across the continent than at any year since 2009:
>>
>> 2009: 82
>> 2010: 113
>> 2011: 109
>> 2012: 128
>> 2013: 155
>> 2014: 134
>> 2015: 151
>> 2016: 166
>> 2017: 152
>> 2018: 99
>
> Thanks for sharing the statistics.  I took a quick look at the
> information which is published.   The results were as follows:
>
>   2015: 152
>   2016: 165
>   2017: 152
>   2018: 162

since this is a democracy, I vote for 163.

[frank at fisi ~]$ egrep '\|asn\|[0-9]+\|[0-9]+\|2018[0-9]{4}\|'
delegated-afrinic-extended-20181204 | wc -l
163
[frank at fisi ~]$

>> As AFRINIC has a mandate to promote Internet growth across the
>> continent, I really think it would be good to understand what their
>> thoughts on this are – and no – before I get jumped on – I am not
>> blaming AFRINIC for the drop – but it certainly does warrant questions
>> being asked.
>
> In my opinion, if there was a drop, it would be good to understand what
> happened.

Agenda item 1:
was there a drop?

Frank

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