[Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 18, Issue 1

[Andrew Alston]

Timothy,

Let me clarify.  I said I would support a hypothetical dramatic rise in fees.  I never said there had already been one.  Please let us not confuse the two issues.  The allocation fee issue is an entirely separate issue and unrelated to my comments (though I support that as well!)

Andrew


From: Timothy Ola Akinfenwa [mailto:akin.akinfenwa at uniosun.edu.ng]
Sent: 30 June 2016 14:01
To: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
Cc: Aude Kileo <audekileo at rocketmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 18, Issue 1


I'm with Andrew on this one. Yes, AFRINIC has a list of insatiable needs with limited resources. Even the global economy has been relatively unstable over the last few years, at least I can say for 3 to 4 countries in Africa. I think there is no harm in trying to raise additional revenues for AFRINIC if need be.

However, the main concern I have like many others is in the manner by which this "fairly dramatic rise in fees" (in Andrew's words) were considered and approved before being communicated to the community. The Internet community is global but we also should know that not all our fingers are equal.

Timothy
Speaking as a resource member here again.

Let’s stop and analyse for a second.

The community wants more v6 outreach and training – this costs money
The community wants (I hope) wants AfriNIC to be part of the global community – this costs money
The community wants a push for RPKI – this costs money
Segments of the community want an audit proposal that will put severe pressure on the hostmasters and need to a resource crunch meaning more people – This costs money
The community wants (and has) 2 meetings a year – these cost money

I can keep listing….

The community has seen the financials clearly presented in the last few years and the financials clearly indicate that AfriNIC has very little financial reserve and has in fact for years been running on a very close to breakeven (and in many cases at a loss, especially if you discount FOREX gains, which cannot be relied on)

The community has questioned why AfriNIC’s financial reserve is as low as it is (particularly in Tunis).

Now….

Members of the same community are proposing a fee decrease and as a result a cut in revenue….

Pray tell, how do you propose AfriNIC funds all the points listed above?  Money doesn’t grow on trees, it can’t be picked like fruit, there are no lotteries AfriNIC can win, and without huge scope creep and going into some kinda commercial trading outside of IP addressing, other sources of revenue are significantly limited.

Hence, as a paying resource member, I for one have ZERO problem with a fairly dramatic rise in the fees.  Both to build reserve and to fund the very things the community is asking for.

That’s my opinion *as a resource member*

Andrew


From: Honest Ornella GANKPA [mailto:honest1989 at gmail.com<mailto:honest1989 at gmail.com>]
Sent: 30 June 2016 12:49
To: Aude Kileo <audekileo at rocketmail.com<mailto:audekileo at rocketmail.com>>; General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 18, Issue 1

+1 Aude.

I may also add that I do not see how Randy's comment relates to Diana's suggestion. Indeed raising the fees might be beneficial to Afrinic (The organization needs money to run after all). However this could be a barrier for potential new members and we do want new members.

Best Regards

2016-06-30 10:27 GMT+01:00 Aude Kileo <audekileo at rocketmail.com<mailto:audekileo at rocketmail.com>>:
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Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:00:54 +0900
From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com<mailto:randy at psg.com>>
To: Diana Ikwuagwu <diana.ikwuagwu at unn.edu.ng<mailto:diana.ikwuagwu at unn.edu.ng>>
Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:community-discuss at afrinic.net>>
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up
    fees
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> I think it will be very good if the membership maintenance price be
> lowered.  Please let the board look into this.

<sarcasm>
i strongly agree.  afrninc should pay us to take address space from
them.  this would make my business a bit easier.
</sarcasm>


Hi Community,

I don't think SARCASM is good for us new ones on the mailing list. We are here to follow and learn even if our opinion may not count.

Please allow us to also share our voice.

Regards,

Aude...



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