[Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 18, Issue 1

[abel ELITCHA]

Hi Timothy,

Challenges in the Global economy affect all countries and for that matter,
AFRINIC "Members" as well notwithstanding other specific challenges we have
within Africa.
Thank.

2016-06-30 11:01 GMT+00:00 Timothy Ola Akinfenwa <
akin.akinfenwa at uniosun.edu.ng>:

> I'm with Andrew on this one. Yes, AFRINIC has a list of insatiable needs
> with limited resources. Even the global economy has been relatively
> unstable over the last few years, at least I can say for 3 to 4 countries
> in Africa. I think there is no harm in trying to raise additional revenues
> for AFRINIC if need be.
>
> However, the main concern I have like many others is in the manner by
> which this "fairly dramatic rise in fees" (in Andrew's words) were
> considered and approved before being communicated to the community. The
> Internet community is global but we also should know that not all our
> fingers are equal.
>
> Timothy
>
> Speaking as a resource member here again.
>
>
>
> Let’s stop and analyse for a second.
>
>
>
> The community wants more v6 outreach and training – this costs money
>
> The community wants (I hope) wants AfriNIC to be part of the global
> community – this costs money
>
> The community wants a push for RPKI – this costs money
>
> Segments of the community want an audit proposal that will put severe
> pressure on the hostmasters and need to a resource crunch meaning more
> people – This costs money
>
> The community wants (and has) 2 meetings a year – these cost money
>
>
>
> I can keep listing….
>
>
>
> The community has seen the financials clearly presented in the last few
> years and the financials clearly indicate that AfriNIC has very little
> financial reserve and has in fact for years been running on a very close to
> breakeven (and in many cases at a loss, especially if you discount FOREX
> gains, which cannot be relied on)
>
>
>
> The community has questioned why AfriNIC’s financial reserve is as low as
> it is (particularly in Tunis).
>
>
>
> Now….
>
>
>
> Members of the same community are proposing a fee decrease and as a result
> a cut in revenue….
>
>
>
> Pray tell, how do you propose AfriNIC funds all the points listed above?
> Money doesn’t grow on trees, it can’t be picked like fruit, there are no
> lotteries AfriNIC can win, and without huge scope creep and going into some
> kinda commercial trading outside of IP addressing, other sources of revenue
> are significantly limited.
>
>
>
> Hence, as a paying resource member, I for one have ZERO problem with a
> fairly dramatic rise in the fees.  Both to build reserve and to fund the
> very things the community is asking for.
>
>
>
> That’s my opinion **as a resource member**
>
>
>
> Andrew
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>
>
>
>
> *From:* Honest Ornella GANKPA [mailto:honest1989 at gmail.com]
> *Sent:* 30 June 2016 12:49
> *To:* Aude Kileo <audekileo at rocketmail.com>; General Discussions of
> AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
> *Subject:* Re: [Community-Discuss] Community-Discuss Digest, Vol 18,
> Issue 1
>
>
>
> +1 Aude.
>
>
>
> I may also add that I do not see how Randy's comment relates to Diana's
> suggestion. Indeed raising the fees might be beneficial to Afrinic (The
> organization needs money to run after all). However this could be a barrier
> for potential new members and we do want new members.
>
>
>
> Best Regards
>
>
>
> 2016-06-30 10:27 GMT+01:00 Aude Kileo <audekileo at rocketmail.com>:
>
> ------------------------------
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> Message: 8
> Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 13:00:54 +0900
> From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com>
> To: Diana Ikwuagwu <diana.ikwuagwu at unn.edu.ng>
> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up
>     fees
> Message-ID: <m2ziq3gwax.wl%randy at psg.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII
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> > I think it will be very good if the membership maintenance price be
> > lowered.  Please let the board look into this.
>
> <sarcasm>
> i strongly agree.  afrninc should pay us to take address space from
> them.  this would make my business a bit easier.
>
> </sarcasm>
>
>
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>
>
> Hi Community,
>
>
>
> I don't think SARCASM is good for us new ones on the mailing list. We are
> here to follow and learn even if our opinion may not count.
>
>
>
> Please allow us to also share our voice.
>
>
>
> Regards,
>
>
>
> Aude...
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> Honest Ornella GANKPA
>
> Network engineer
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--Komi A. Elitcha
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