[Community-Discuss] post ipv4 depletion frauds, brokers activities

[Noah]

On 26 Jun 2016 18:39, "Andrew Alston" <Andrew.Alston at liquidtelecom.com>
wrote:
>
> Noah,
>
> Isn't it obvious now.
>
> That the IPv4 market is a multimillion $$$$ venture out there.
>
> Can you explain and expand on this a bit more?  Because it’s far from
obvious to me what you are implying here.
>
Andrew,

PS: I am not sure if number resources were meant to be a commodity but that
is what they are turning into.

NOTE:  The idea was for them [Number Resources] to be allocated on needs
basis and at some administrative fees and if company 'foo'  run out of
business and couldn't use them any longer, they were then returned to the
parent RIR for re-allocation.

Now, to drive my argument home....see links below....

https://www.apnic.net/manage-ip/manage-resources/transfer-resources/transfer-facilitators

http://ipv4marketgroup.com/

http://www.hilcostreambank.com/ipv4-brokerage

http://www.iptrading.com/

http://www.gtri.com/how-to-buy-or-sell-ipv4-addresses/   ---- This explains
it even more....

https://conference.apnic.net/data/41/apricot-2016-ipv4-market-group-final_1456115892.pdf
.

And just before you point out that, there is no relation with the RPKI
argument, those seeking to benefit from whatever loophole they may abuse,
wont stop at nothing since its all about money. But to whose benefit. [1]

And that is why the original post of this thread was "shedding some light"
on what is happening at ARIN and why we should also engage in a discourse
on what the situation is on the ground within the AFRINIC region.

Which is why RPKI surfaced in the discussion because of its benefits and to
quote a text from one of the responses to this thread..

"the rpki is a certificate hierarchy of attestation of resource
ownership".  As in, can HELP keep hijackers off some org allocated space.

> Andrew
>

Noah

[1] The internet is the only space where no one has control and everyone
wants it that way. Number resources that she depends on are therefore
critical.
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