[Community-Discuss] Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up fees

Mon Jul 4 21:17:03 UTC 2016

Dear Seun,

Thank you for your reaction to the email “Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up fees‏” and which further is raising the issue of the membership size. The suggestion was not made for us to adopt bluntly what is being done in other regions, rather go for an adequate contextualization. Membership growth is linked to the region the RIRs are serving and the fact that AfriNIC has such of least developed countries on the list maintained by United Nations (UN) should be of great concern to us and discussion should rather be focused around the points below:

Is the current fees schedules adapted to the region and still efficient?What is the impact of such level of Least developed countries in the region on the membership growth?What can be done to mitigate the impact and grow the Internet in the region and the membership base of AFRINIC?How do we protect this region against people selling their IPv4 space and transferring them out if Inter-RIR transfer is allowed and reducing AFRINIC membership?What fees schedule for a such environment and with almost 90% of existing members <= small?
Thank you,

Marcus

Date: Sat, 2 Jul 2016 12:29:05 +0300
From: seun.ojedeji at gmail.com
To: community-discuss at afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up fees

Hello,
The other thing we perhaps should note is that the membership size differs significantly[1]. AFRINIC does indeed give discount for certain categories of members which are not also existing in other RIRs. 
Overall, while we may observe the trends in other regions they may not necessarily be applicable in our environment.
Regards

1. https://www.apnic.net/get-ip/apnic-membership/who-are-our-members

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Kindly excuse brevity and typos
On 1 Jul 2016 20:49, "Marcus K. G. Adomey" <madomey at hotmail.com> wrote:

Hi Serge,

From the link of APNIC you provided, ( https://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/corporate-documents/documents/membership/member-fee-schedule ) checked the list of the least developed least countries maintained by United Nations (UN) ( http://unstats.un.org/unsd/methods/m49/m49regin.htm#least ) I have counted 34 African countries on the 54 we have which is about 63%

This figure is speaking about itself if we have to consider what APNIC is doing.

Thanks

Marcus

Date: Thu, 30 Jun 2016 11:53:13 +0100
From: sergekbk at gmail.com
To: randy at psg.com; diana.ikwuagwu at unn.edu.ng
CC: community-discuss at afrinic.net
Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up fees

Hello Diana,
Actually each RIR set the fees model which fit it's region and its community needs. So nothing wrong with your suggestion at all.

For the case of our region, AFRINIC already gives 50% discount  to NREN's and also waives fees for critical infrastructures like IXP's.

In fact, other RIR like APNIC treat  members in least developped countries differently.  See link below.

https://www.apnic.net/about-APNIC/corporate-documents/documents/membership/member-fee-schedule

BOD and Executive will have to see if this can fit our AFRINIC region needs and report to the community.

Kind Regards.

Serge IlungaCell: +243814443160Skype: sergekbkR.D.Congo-------- Original message --------From: Randy Bush <randy at psg.com> Date: 06/30/2016  05:00  (GMT+01:00) To: Diana Ikwuagwu <diana.ikwuagwu at unn.edu.ng> Cc: General Discussions of AFRINIC <community-discuss at afrinic.net> Subject: Re: [Community-Discuss] Resolution 201604.274 about Set-Up fees 
> I think it will be very good if the membership maintenance price be
> lowered.  Please let the board look into this.

<sarcasm>
i strongly agree.  afrninc should pay us to take address space from
them.  this would make my business a bit easier.
</sarcasm>

fwiw, i believe fees are set by the boards (or equivalents) of all the
other rirs.  the board, and execs, are responsible that income meets
expenses.  and with responsibility must go authority.

has no one noticed the british insanity in which the country eats its
children?  i am hoping that the states does not follow.  there is no
need for the afrinic community to do so.

randy

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