[AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country

Sat Jan 16 08:30:18 UTC 2016

+1 for @Latif.
Mean while we are all invited to read the document produced by IGF.

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---- Latif LADID [*The New Internet based on IPv6"] wrote ----

>I am aware of that and contributed to it.
>
>It does not address real deployment showcases which is what ISPs and universities need to get started.
>
>Latif
>
>-----Original Message-----
>From: Mwendwa Kivuva [mailto:Kivuva at transworldafrica.com] 
>Sent: Freitag, 15. Januar 2016 22:00
>To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
>Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country
>
>Just to make matters simpler, the 2015 IGF had a "Best Practice Forum Creating an Enabling Environment for IPv6 Adoption" that released a very thorough document on the same. Find the link here http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/best-practice-forums/2015-bpf-outs
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>The document was produced through a collaborative effort like what we are trying here.
>As we develop our own lessons learned, it would be great if we don't re-invent the wheel.
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>Regards
>
>On 15/01/2016, Latif LADID [*The New Internet based on IPv6"] <latif at ladid.lu> wrote:
>> I’ll join.
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Stephen Honlue [mailto:stephen.honlue at afrinic.net]
>> Sent: Freitag, 15. Januar 2016 19:07
>> To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net>
>> Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country
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>>
>> Thanks to you all for your valuable inputs.
>> @Latif, I suggest we create a Google doc so that we can contribute 
>> openly then the example of those who deployed it already will be 
>> stated in that doc and their experiences share if they agreed.
>> If you are all ok then share here your Google accounts so that you ca 
>> be invited to contribute.
>>
>> Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone
>>
>>
>>
>> ---- Latif LADID [*The New Internet based on IPv6"] wrote ----
>>
>> This is a very crucial discussion and never late to have.
>>
>>
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>> It would be good to write a couple of best practice deployment real 
>> African cases to show how other have done it. A couple of very good 
>> wasted examples that come to mind:
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>>
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>> -          The Free university of South Africa is the ultimate and fantastic
>> showcase deployed by Andrew Alston
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>> -          The cross country ISP where Andrew works
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>> The Afrinic board members should take the initiative to collect these 
>> showcases that are done by fellow African experts Africa.
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>> I will provide you then with EU and Asian examples. Deal :)
>>
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>> Cheers
>>
>> Latif
>>
>>
>>
>> From: Mwendwa Kivuva [mailto:Kivuva at transworldafrica.com]
>> Sent: Freitag, 15. Januar 2016 17:06
>> To: IPv6 in Africa <afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net 
>> <mailto:afripv6-discuss at afrinic.net> >
>> Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country
>>
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>>>
>>> 1. NAT and his twin PAT
>>
>> How does NAT hinder v6 growth? I thought NAT has hindered exhaustion 
>> of v4, but not uptake of v6.
>>
>>>
>>> 2. Legacy Telecom equipment run software which doesnt support  IPv6 
>>> and/or its costly to upgrade
>>>
>>
>> This is a very rare occurrence,  but it's true. While upgrading the 
>> vast University of Nairobi network to v6, I encountered about 8 
>> routers out of about 50 that were not v6 ready and the IOS could not 
>> be upgraded. There were so many software instances that needed 
>> updating but that was not an emergency since we were dual stacking
>>
>>> 3. No business case after all 1. above is working so well and money 
>>> has not stopped flowing in.
>>>
>> Very true.
>> ICT admins and CIOs have let us down. There was a good campaign by 
>> AFRINIC on IPv6 for managers. Is there any monitoring and evaluation 
>> from AFRINIC to enable the community know how effective the training 
>> was? For
>>
>>> 4. Some just dont have the budget for revamp after all the old kit is 
>>> still kicking as long as no one touches it.
>>>
>>
>> You will be surprised, transition is very cheap. If you have the 
>> manpower, you are ready to roll.
>>
>>> 5. Those with the most recent code are just plain lazy that when they 
>>> deploy IPv4 , they don't remember to also do the same for IPv6.
>>>
>>
>> This are post implementation challenges. And they are good because we 
>> need to take one thing at a time.
>>
>>> 6. The end users careless about the network and care more about the 
>>> services they consume. No pressure from them at all towards the ISP.
>>> Afterall, WhatsApp, Facebook, Netflix is all working fine....
>>
>> If I was an end user, honestly I would also not care. End user is only 
>> concerned when it's broken.
>>
>>>
>>> Noah
>>>
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