<p dir="ltr">+1 for @Latif.<br>
Mean while we are all invited to read the document produced by IGF.</p>
<p dir="ltr">Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone</p>
<br><br>---- Latif LADID [*The New Internet based on IPv6"] wrote ----<br><br>I am aware of that and contributed to it.<br><br>It does not address real deployment showcases which is what ISPs and universities need to get started.<br><br>Latif<br><br>-----Original Message-----<br>From: Mwendwa Kivuva [mailto:<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>] <br>Sent: Freitag, 15. Januar 2016 22:00<br>To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <<a href="mailto:afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net">afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net</a>><br>Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country<br><br>Just to make matters simpler, the 2015 IGF had a "Best Practice Forum Creating an Enabling Environment for IPv6 Adoption" that released a very thorough document on the same. Find the link here <a href="http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/best-practice-forums/2015-bpf-outs">http://www.intgovforum.org/cms/best-practice-forums/2015-bpf-outs</a><br><br>The document was produced through a collaborative effort like what we are trying here.<br>As we develop our own lessons learned, it would be great if we don't re-invent the wheel.<br><br>Regards<br><br>On 15/01/2016, Latif LADID [*The New Internet based on IPv6"] <<a href="mailto:latif@ladid.lu">latif@ladid.lu</a>> wrote:<br>> I’ll join.<br>><br>><br>><br>> From: Stephen Honlue [mailto:<a href="mailto:stephen.honlue@afrinic.net">stephen.honlue@afrinic.net</a>]<br>> Sent: Freitag, 15. Januar 2016 19:07<br>> To: IPv6 in Africa Discussions <<a href="mailto:afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net">afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net</a>><br>> Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country<br>><br>><br>><br>> Thanks to you all for your valuable inputs.<br>> @Latif, I suggest we create a Google doc so that we can contribute <br>> openly then the example of those who deployed it already will be <br>> stated in that doc and their experiences share if they agreed.<br>> If you are all ok then share here your Google accounts so that you ca <br>> be invited to contribute.<br>><br>> Sent from my Sony Xperia™ smartphone<br>><br>><br>><br>> ---- Latif LADID [*The New Internet based on IPv6"] wrote ----<br>><br>> This is a very crucial discussion and never late to have.<br>><br>><br>><br>> It would be good to write a couple of best practice deployment real <br>> African cases to show how other have done it. A couple of very good <br>> wasted examples that come to mind:<br>><br>><br>><br>> - The Free university of South Africa is the ultimate and fantastic<br>> showcase deployed by Andrew Alston<br>><br>> - The cross country ISP where Andrew works<br>><br>><br>><br>> The Afrinic board members should take the initiative to collect these <br>> showcases that are done by fellow African experts Africa.<br>><br>><br>><br>> I will provide you then with EU and Asian examples. Deal :)<br>><br>><br>><br>> Cheers<br>><br>> Latif<br>><br>><br>><br>> From: Mwendwa Kivuva [mailto:<a href="mailto:Kivuva@transworldafrica.com">Kivuva@transworldafrica.com</a>]<br>> Sent: Freitag, 15. Januar 2016 17:06<br>> To: IPv6 in Africa <<a href="mailto:afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net">afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net</a> <br>> <mailto:<a href="mailto:afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net">afripv6-discuss@afrinic.net</a>> ><br>> Subject: Re: [AfrIPv6-Discuss] IPv6 adoption per country<br>><br>><br>><br>>><br>>> 1. NAT and his twin PAT<br>><br>> How does NAT hinder v6 growth? I thought NAT has hindered exhaustion <br>> of v4, but not uptake of v6.<br>><br>>><br>>> 2. Legacy Telecom equipment run software which doesnt support IPv6 <br>>> and/or its costly to upgrade<br>>><br>><br>> This is a very rare occurrence, but it's true. While upgrading the <br>> vast University of Nairobi network to v6, I encountered about 8 <br>> routers out of about 50 that were not v6 ready and the IOS could not <br>> be upgraded. There were so many software instances that needed <br>> updating but that was not an emergency since we were dual stacking<br>><br>>> 3. No business case after all 1. above is working so well and money <br>>> has not stopped flowing in.<br>>><br>> Very true.<br>> ICT admins and CIOs have let us down. There was a good campaign by <br>> AFRINIC on IPv6 for managers. Is there any monitoring and evaluation <br>> from AFRINIC to enable the community know how effective the training <br>> was? For<br>><br>>> 4. Some just dont have the budget for revamp after all the old kit is <br>>> still kicking as long as no one touches it.<br>>><br>><br>> You will be surprised, transition is very cheap. If you have the <br>> manpower, you are ready to roll.<br>><br>>> 5. Those with the most recent code are just plain lazy that when they <br>>> deploy IPv4 , they don't remember to also do the same for IPv6.<br>>><br>><br>> This are post implementation challenges. And they are good because we <br>> need to take one thing at a time.<br>><br>>> 6. The end users careless about the network and care more about the <br>>> services they consume. No pressure from them at all towards the ISP.<br>>> Afterall, WhatsApp, Facebook, Netflix is all working fine....<br>><br>> If I was an end user, honestly I would also not care. 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