[afripv6-discuss] We call it the "T ing'aTing'a" initiative

[Nishal Goburdhan]

On 21 Feb 2013, at 9:15 PM, Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz> wrote:
> On 2/21/2013 8:17 PM, SM wrote:
>> Hi Nishal,
>> At 06:08 21-02-2013, Nishal Goburdhan wrote:
>>> so, if you were in EG, and wrote to AfriNIC asking for a tunnel (to our
>>> current ops centre in ZA) we'd politely point you to one of the existing
>>> tunnelbroker services that are closer to your region, or, keep you on
>>> hold, while we found a partner in your area, so as to minimise your
>>> latency to services in your area.  you would *not* get a tunnel from EG
>>> to ZA.  we'd want you to get the best possible IPv6 experience...
>> 
>> There is some humor in the above. :-)

shucks, and i usually write so carefully....   :-)

the world doesn't need another *generic* tunnelbroker service.
but people (read:  networks) still need tunnels because in some cases, that's the only mechanism for connection.
this thread has shown you that.

so, how do you fix the issue of inefficient tunnel routing - for places where it's needed? 

> you mean someone should find a way to localising (v6) traffic....?
> over a shared medium, where many can meet?
> wonder what Nishal thinks about that........

he'd probably say that africa's oldest IXP has been passing (admittedly small amounts of) IPv6 since 2002 or so.   ;-)
(no SM, there is no differentiation in the statistics reporting ie. v4/v6, at the moment)

> Still:
> who needs a tunnel provider in ZA?
> can't they get native transit?
> (i believe it's possible)

it is.  however, there are still operators that can't get - for whatever reason - get native v6.
there are still operators that won't "tunnel" to a competitor/alternate upstream.
there are still operators that want to spend time "learning".
...
ZA is also relatively well connected.  so an operator in, say LS/SZ/NA/BW/ZW/... who has a relatively direct path to ZA, will also benefit from this.
this is also true for KE (i use ZA, because i'm more familiar with the routing landscape in this region).
so it's not a 'ZA' service;  the first node is operated out of ZA.  the second out of KE.  and hisham is looking for more...

> or is this for end users? But Hisham said " to any member "....
> So, I want to compete with the Ting'a guys... anyone in TZ need v6?
> talk to me!!!

frank, now if we only had more operators like you!     :-))

--n.