[AfrICANN-discuss] Africa Top Level Domains Organization 2019 Annual Report
Brian Munyao Longwe
blongwe at gmail.com
Sat Aug 8 14:06:32 UTC 2020
Hi Mark,
Good questions.
I would take hosts to mean unique IP addresses associated with domain names
under the TLD.
For example.
mail.xyz.co.za
www.xyz.co.za
pbx.xyz.co.za
webmail.xyz.co.za
nfs.xyz.co.za
crm.xyz.co.za
billing.xyz.co.za
That’s potentially 7 different hosts.
Also for NG it could the one IP address with (let’s say) 200 domains
pointing to it would still be counted as one host and not 200. So there are
some underlying issues that might be surfacing via this line of enquirer.
Anyway just adding my thoughts to the confusion!
Thanks for raising these very good points Alan! Glad too see there is still
enough gray matter left to analyse these issues, lol!
Regards,
Brian
On Sat, 8 Aug 2020 at 1:18 PM, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
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> ISO HOSTS ALL DUPLICATES SLD THREELD
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> 1 ZA 6197417 6268058 70641 48 22616
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> 2 EG 4989280 5004756 15476 39 798
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> 3 MA 153009 157364 4355 1075 1795
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> 4 KE 142034 313717 171683 17 1514
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> 5 MG 117130 130093 12963 243 26852
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> 6 AO 104001 104243 242 74 1481
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> 7 RE 97696 97734 38 376 97308
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> 8 MZ 97258 97817 559 26 9680
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> 9 NA 79258 79786 528 57 70490
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> 10 CI 71311 71852 541 244 15026
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> 11 MU 51689 52266 577 273 51050
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> 12 GH 45780 48225 2445 13 236
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> 13 CM 36060 36329 269 170 36014
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> 14 TZ 34901 35182 281 7 576
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> 15 ZW 29158 41208 12050 11 1903
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> 16 UG 25570 28502 2932 58 421
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> 17 LY 25519 26290 771 232 590
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> 18 ZM 19880 20388 508 29 17513
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> 19 LS 16179 16197 18 10 99
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> 20 CV 14315 14320 5 51 77
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> 21 GM 7996 8010 14 31 7981
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> 22 BW 5420 5576 156 63 904
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> 23 BJ 2766 2773 7 50 2753
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> 24 CD 2655 2675 20 123 2628
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> 25 NG 2563 10476 7913 154 606
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> there were more non KE domains than KE domains (5:4 ratio,
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> Perhaps AFTLD needs to have the DNS Study re-run - and this time
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> get as many ccTLD's to opt in (with Zone copies) as possible along
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> with the Observatory (all of which I'd love to be involved with).
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> (We still have all the code - etc!)
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> https://dnsstudy.africa/AfricaDomainNameSystemMarketStudy2016FinalReportVersion1.03h.pdf
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> Knowing the uptake of Ng in Nigeria(though still
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> very far from desired number) I quickly checked locally and
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> found that it seem the stats on isc may be grossly inaccurate.
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> See the stats for .ng at:
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> Regards
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> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020, 10:05 Seun
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> Ojedeji, <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
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>> Thanks a lot Noah, I missed the previous post
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>> Regards
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>> Kindly excuse brevity and typos
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>> On Sat, 8 Aug 2020, 10:04
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>> Noah, <noah at neo.co.tz>
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>>> On Fri, 7 Aug
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>>> 2020, 19:12 Seun Ojedeji, <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
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>>>> Hello Alan,
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>>>> Thanks for this, kindly find inline:
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>>>> On Fri, Aug
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>>>> 7, 2020 at 11:49 AM Alan Levin <alan at futureperfect.co.za>
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>>>>> Hi Barrack,
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>>>>> On
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>>>>> Fri, Aug 7, 2020 at 12:20 PM Barrack
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>>>>> Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
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>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>> Many thanks for
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>>>>>> reading the report. We welcome
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>>>>>> your feedback and most importantly
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>>>>>> views. Could you be specify the
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>>>>>> challenges so that we can work on
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>>>>>> them and report back to the
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>>>>>> Community? You can use this
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>>>>>> channel or email secretariat at aftld.org
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>>>>>> or both.
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>>>>>
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>>>>> Thank you for your reply. I suggest
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>>>>> that you examine the link and come up
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>>>>> with your own useful questions.
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>>>>> I do not wish to single out any...
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>>>>> so please I use only as one simple
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>>>>> example, there are many many
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>>>>> questions.
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>>>>> I believe Nigeria is one of our
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>>>>> largest populations and economies...
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>>>>> yet the .ng domain has less than
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>>>>> 2600 live hosts in 2019
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>>>>> ng 2563 10476
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>>>>> 7913 154 606
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>>>>> Nigeria
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>>>>> compared with Egypt
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>>>>> eg 4989280 5004756
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>>>>> 15476 39 798 Egypt
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>>>>> almost 5 million
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>>>>> 2600 and 5 million are clearly
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>>>>> vastly different numbers!
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>>>> Regards
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>>>>> Sincerely
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>>>>> Alan
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>>>>>> On
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>>>>>> Fri, 7 Aug 2020, 12:15 pm Alan
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>>>>>> Levin, <alan at futureperfect.co.za>
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>>>>>>> Hi,
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>>>>>>> Just a quick note to say
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>>>>>>> that I read this wonderful
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>>>>>>> brochure. Wow, so many
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>>>>>>> investors and sponsors, it
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>>>>>>> makes us look good.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Unfortunately there are
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>>>>>>> deep and significant
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>>>>>>> problems with aftld's that
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>>>>>>> are not mentioned or even
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> alluded to.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> The ISC domain survey has
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>>>>>>> unfortunately ended
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>>>>>>> because the Internet has
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>>>>>>> advanced on the
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>>>>>>> whole, globally.
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This list does reflect
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>>>>>>> where the problem areas in
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>>>>>>> Africa remain a BIG problem
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>>>>>>> for Aftld's...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> https://downloads.isc.org/www/survey/reports/current/bynum.txt
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sincerely
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alan
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Mon,
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>>>>>>> Aug 3, 2020 at 9:46 AM
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>>>>>>> Barrack Otieno <otieno.barrack at gmail.com>
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>>>>>>> wrote:
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>>>>>>>> Dear Community
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>>>>>>>> Members,
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Attached please find
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>>>>>>>> the annual report for
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>>>>>>>> Africa Top Level Domains
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>>>>>>>> Organization.
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>>>>>>>> Thank you
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best Regars
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>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>
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