[AfrICANN-discuss] Management of African ccTLDs: Panne du .td?

Wed Sep 19 09:46:38 SAST 2012

Le 18/09/2012 21:14, Nii Narku Quaynor a écrit :
> Ack. Is there anything to do to expedite and resolve current situation in view of the information you have?
I contacted someone from France Telecom on behalf of OTRT managing 
director (who accepted my help) and ask them to continue seving the .td 
zone from bow.rain.fr as previously and I am waiting their reply.
Regards

>
> On Sep 18, 2012, at 19:05, Mark Elkins <mje at posix.co.za> wrote:
>
>> On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 19:08 +0100, Adamou Nacer wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>> Le 18/09/2012 16:57, Mark Elkins a écrit :
>>>
>>>> I thought that official technical contacts could more or less update the
>>>> IANA database in real-time (which is the impression I got from a Kim
>>>> Davies presentation a few years ago).
>>> Is this confirmed?
>> I e-mailed Kim Davies - who looks after such things. He replied after
>> about 15 minutes. (ie - he is reachable and responds quickly).
>>
>> I quote from Kim (the answer to my question above):
>>
>>     It is not real-time, but the processing is more or less
>>     "straight through" if a change request is submitted, passes
>>     all of the technical checks, and is consented to by the
>>     contacts for the TLD.
>>
>>  From this, I read that a change should not take days.
>>
>> So are the appropriate people from Chad going to attend AfriNIC-17 in
>> Sudan (late November) where various training courses and quality
>> presentations are freely available along with access to a bunch of
>> bright people. Its not AfTLD, but many people there wear multiple hats.
>>
>>>> If AfriNIC was running a secondary
>>>> on their AnyCast system - this should have stopped the zone disappearing
>>>> - but I see even now just the two nameservers (bow.rain.fr. and
>>>> bow.intnet.td.)
>>> You are at the heart of the problem: new primary servers, AfriNIC +
>>> Afnic secondary servers, but the final step was to update the IANA
>>> database with information on these new servers. That final step was
>>> badly done and resulted in this situation.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>>> Is any other African country in a similarly precarious state? Are you
>>>> aware that AfriNIC can host a Secondary Anycast nameserver instance for
>>>> you?
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 15:16 +0100, Adamou Nacer wrote:
>>>>> Hi Dr Paulos,
>>>>> I have spend the whole morning discussing about this issue with the
>>>>> telecommunication regulator's representatives and the manager of the
>>>>> primary nameservers at sotel (national telco).
>>>>> So what happens is simple.
>>>>> - Sotel was in contract with France Telecom which provided the IP
>>>>> addresses they were using for the .td primary servers.
>>>>> - That contract was suddenly stopped and then, France Telecom got back
>>>>> its addresses.
>>>>> - In the meantime, the guys managing the .td nameservers installed new
>>>>> nameservers (with Sotel's owned IP addresses from AfriNIC) and were
>>>>> supported by AfriNIC and Afnic which host secondary servers.The IANA's
>>>>> database update process was started but is not completed till now. So
>>>>> the sudden withdrawal of France Telecom's IP addresses combined with the
>>>>> ongoing database update operation resulted in this situation.
>>>>> As a summary, the main reason of this is lack of planning.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Dr Paulos Nyirenda a écrit :
>>>>>> We got a report of this issue at .td at the AFTLD Annual Meeting in Livingstone, Zambia
>>>>>> in July 2012 and many of us have attempted to get in touch with .td without much success.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What may also be noted is that it seems that there have been not complaints or reports
>>>>>> from within Chad. It hence seems necessary to ask whether this is a problem for the
>>>>>> Internet community within Chad. Are there "significantly interested parties" in this
>>>>>> issue within Chad?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have also tried to contact those that seem to have been running the secondary DNS
>>>>>> services, not much luck there either - no one replies to the addresses in the SOA, even
>>>>>> from servers on .fr - so why were they chosen to run secondary DNS services?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> The FOIWG of the ccNSO is discussing what may be interpretted as "substantial
>>>>>> misbehaviour" of a ccTLD manager and the conditions that must exist for them to be
>>>>>> interpretted as adequate for IANA intervention as stipulated in RFC1591. Are we there yet
>>>>>> for this case?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Paulos
>>>>>> ======================
>>>>>> Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
>>>>>> NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD
>>>>>> http://www.registrar.mw
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 18 Sep 2012 at 9:21, Adamou Nacer wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi Nigel,
>>>>>>> Le 17/09/2012 17:03, Nigel Roberts a écrit :
>>>>>>>> I don't want to make this sound like a commercial (and there are
>>>>>>>> others - also inside Africa - who no doubt can offer to assist as
>>>>>>>> well) but just to mention we may be able to help any African ccTLDs
>>>>>>>> who maybe need additional resources -- from a simple secondary
>>>>>>>> nameserver right through to a complete backend registry.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Happy to be contacted at any time. Off list, probably, best.
>>>>>>> In fact the problem is not only technical. I think they have support
>>>>>>> from afnic. But you see, that isn't enough. I called a friend of mine
>>>>>>> close to that file and he promised to introduce me to SOTEL and OTRT. I
>>>>>>> will come back with more information on that issue as soon as possible.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, is this mailing list the right place to get assistance on this
>>>>>>> kind of issue?
>>>>>>> Regards
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