[AfrICANN-discuss] Management of African ccTLDs: Panne du .td?
Mark Elkins
mje at posix.co.za
Tue Sep 18 21:05:16 SAST 2012
On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 19:08 +0100, Adamou Nacer wrote:
> Hi,
> Le 18/09/2012 16:57, Mark Elkins a écrit :
>
> > I thought that official technical contacts could more or less update the
> > IANA database in real-time (which is the impression I got from a Kim
> > Davies presentation a few years ago).
> Is this confirmed?
I e-mailed Kim Davies - who looks after such things. He replied after
about 15 minutes. (ie - he is reachable and responds quickly).
I quote from Kim (the answer to my question above):
It is not real-time, but the processing is more or less
"straight through" if a change request is submitted, passes
all of the technical checks, and is consented to by the
contacts for the TLD.
From this, I read that a change should not take days.
So are the appropriate people from Chad going to attend AfriNIC-17 in
Sudan (late November) where various training courses and quality
presentations are freely available along with access to a bunch of
bright people. Its not AfTLD, but many people there wear multiple hats.
> > If AfriNIC was running a secondary
> > on their AnyCast system - this should have stopped the zone disappearing
> > - but I see even now just the two nameservers (bow.rain.fr. and
> > bow.intnet.td.)
> You are at the heart of the problem: new primary servers, AfriNIC +
> Afnic secondary servers, but the final step was to update the IANA
> database with information on these new servers. That final step was
> badly done and resulted in this situation.
>
> Regards
> >
> > Is any other African country in a similarly precarious state? Are you
> > aware that AfriNIC can host a Secondary Anycast nameserver instance for
> > you?
> >
> > On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 15:16 +0100, Adamou Nacer wrote:
> > > Hi Dr Paulos,
> > > I have spend the whole morning discussing about this issue with the
> > > telecommunication regulator's representatives and the manager of the
> > > primary nameservers at sotel (national telco).
> > > So what happens is simple.
> > > - Sotel was in contract with France Telecom which provided the IP
> > > addresses they were using for the .td primary servers.
> > > - That contract was suddenly stopped and then, France Telecom got back
> > > its addresses.
> > > - In the meantime, the guys managing the .td nameservers installed new
> > > nameservers (with Sotel's owned IP addresses from AfriNIC) and were
> > > supported by AfriNIC and Afnic which host secondary servers.The IANA's
> > > database update process was started but is not completed till now. So
> > > the sudden withdrawal of France Telecom's IP addresses combined with the
> > > ongoing database update operation resulted in this situation.
> > > As a summary, the main reason of this is lack of planning.
> > >
> > > Regards
> > >
> > > Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Dr Paulos Nyirenda a écrit :
> > > > We got a report of this issue at .td at the AFTLD Annual Meeting in Livingstone, Zambia
> > > > in July 2012 and many of us have attempted to get in touch with .td without much success.
> > > >
> > > > What may also be noted is that it seems that there have been not complaints or reports
> > > > from within Chad. It hence seems necessary to ask whether this is a problem for the
> > > > Internet community within Chad. Are there "significantly interested parties" in this
> > > > issue within Chad?
> > > >
> > > > We have also tried to contact those that seem to have been running the secondary DNS
> > > > services, not much luck there either - no one replies to the addresses in the SOA, even
> > > > from servers on .fr - so why were they chosen to run secondary DNS services?
> > > >
> > > > The FOIWG of the ccNSO is discussing what may be interpretted as "substantial
> > > > misbehaviour" of a ccTLD manager and the conditions that must exist for them to be
> > > > interpretted as adequate for IANA intervention as stipulated in RFC1591. Are we there yet
> > > > for this case?
> > > >
> > > > Regards,
> > > >
> > > > Paulos
> > > > ======================
> > > > Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
> > > > NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD
> > > > http://www.registrar.mw
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > On 18 Sep 2012 at 9:21, Adamou Nacer wrote:
> > > >
> > > > > Hi Nigel,
> > > > > Le 17/09/2012 17:03, Nigel Roberts a écrit :
> > > > > > I don't want to make this sound like a commercial (and there are
> > > > > > others - also inside Africa - who no doubt can offer to assist as
> > > > > > well) but just to mention we may be able to help any African ccTLDs
> > > > > > who maybe need additional resources -- from a simple secondary
> > > > > > nameserver right through to a complete backend registry.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Happy to be contacted at any time. Off list, probably, best.
> > > > > In fact the problem is not only technical. I think they have support
> > > > > from afnic. But you see, that isn't enough. I called a friend of mine
> > > > > close to that file and he promised to introduce me to SOTEL and OTRT. I
> > > > > will come back with more information on that issue as soon as possible.
> > > > >
> > > > > Also, is this mailing list the right place to get assistance on this
> > > > > kind of issue?
> > > > > Regards
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