[AfrICANN-discuss] Management of African ccTLDs: Panne du .td?

Adamou Nacer adamou.nacer at gmail.com
Tue Sep 18 20:08:22 SAST 2012


Hi,
Le 18/09/2012 16:57, Mark Elkins a écrit :
> I thought that official technical contacts could more or less update the
> IANA database in real-time (which is the impression I got from a Kim
> Davies presentation a few years ago).
Is this confirmed?
> If AfriNIC was running a secondary
> on their AnyCast system - this should have stopped the zone disappearing
> - but I see even now just the two nameservers (bow.rain.fr. and
> bow.intnet.td.)
You are at the heart of the problem: new primary servers, AfriNIC + 
Afnic secondary servers, but the final step was to update the IANA 
database with information on these new servers. That final step was 
badly done and resulted in this situation.

Regards
>
> Is any other African country in a similarly precarious state? Are you
> aware that AfriNIC can host a Secondary Anycast nameserver instance for
> you?
>
> On Tue, 2012-09-18 at 15:16 +0100, Adamou Nacer wrote:
>> Hi Dr Paulos,
>> I have spend the whole morning discussing about this issue with the
>> telecommunication regulator's representatives and the manager of the
>> primary nameservers at sotel (national telco).
>> So what happens is simple.
>> - Sotel was in contract with France Telecom which provided the IP
>> addresses they were using for the .td primary servers.
>> - That contract was suddenly stopped and then, France Telecom got back
>> its addresses.
>> - In the meantime, the guys managing the .td nameservers installed new
>> nameservers (with Sotel's owned IP addresses from AfriNIC) and were
>> supported by AfriNIC and Afnic which host secondary servers.The IANA's
>> database update process was started but is not completed till now. So
>> the sudden withdrawal of France Telecom's IP addresses combined with the
>> ongoing database update operation resulted in this situation.
>> As a summary, the main reason of this is lack of planning.
>>
>> Regards
>>
>> Le 18/09/2012 11:23, Dr Paulos Nyirenda a écrit :
>>> We got a report of this issue at .td at the AFTLD Annual Meeting in Livingstone, Zambia
>>> in July 2012 and many of us have attempted to get in touch with .td without much success.
>>>
>>> What may also be noted is that it seems that there have been not complaints or reports
>>> from within Chad. It hence seems necessary to ask whether this is a problem for the
>>> Internet community within Chad. Are there "significantly interested parties" in this
>>> issue within Chad?
>>>
>>> We have also tried to contact those that seem to have been running the secondary DNS
>>> services, not much luck there either - no one replies to the addresses in the SOA, even
>>> from servers on .fr - so why were they chosen to run secondary DNS services?
>>>
>>> The FOIWG of the ccNSO is discussing what may be interpretted as "substantial
>>> misbehaviour" of a ccTLD manager and the conditions that must exist for them to be
>>> interpretted as adequate for IANA intervention as stipulated in RFC1591. Are we there yet
>>> for this case?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> Paulos
>>> ======================
>>> Dr Paulos B Nyirenda
>>> NIC.MW & .mw ccTLD
>>> http://www.registrar.mw
>>>
>>>
>>> On 18 Sep 2012 at 9:21, Adamou Nacer wrote:
>>>
>>>> Hi Nigel,
>>>> Le 17/09/2012 17:03, Nigel Roberts a écrit :
>>>>> I don't want to make this sound like a commercial (and there are
>>>>> others - also inside Africa - who no doubt can offer to assist as
>>>>> well) but just to mention we may be able to help any African ccTLDs
>>>>> who maybe need additional resources -- from a simple secondary
>>>>> nameserver right through to a complete backend registry.
>>>>>
>>>>> Happy to be contacted at any time. Off list, probably, best.
>>>> In fact the problem is not only technical. I think they have support
>>>> from afnic. But you see, that isn't enough. I called a friend of mine
>>>> close to that file and he promised to introduce me to SOTEL and OTRT. I
>>>> will come back with more information on that issue as soon as possible.
>>>>
>>>> Also, is this mailing list the right place to get assistance on this
>>>> kind of issue?
>>>> Regards
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