[AfrICANN-discuss] Internet regulation at national level?

Badru Ntege badru.ntege at nftconsult.com
Fri Nov 2 10:24:35 SAST 2012

Thanks Pier

However I would rather we first summarize the discussions\threads to a near common position else the Webinar would become a vocal version of the list.   http://www.webopedia.com<http://www.webopedia.com/>  gives description of Webinar as  Short for Web-based seminar, a presentation, lecture, workshop or seminar that is transmitted over the Web<http://www.webopedia.com/TERM/W/World_Wide_Web.html>.

Which now leads to the execution of the webinar.

To get to the Webinar we need to put first things first.  Open discussion where views are shared and welcomed.  Where people are prepared to shift positions as a result of reflecting on the shared viewpoints and thus creating new ideas.  We need to value and celebrate the differences as opposed to opposition for the sake of opposition.

When we get to that mutual point then a webinar would add value.

We cannot have a valuable webinar with the long shopping list.


1)      Narrow down to a key issue

2)      Clearly outline the desired outcomes

3)      Share summarized background on topic

4)      Attend the webinar.
If I’m not mistaken that would be the better process.
But I’m still failing see how a webinar will provide more value than the current discussion list where issues are discussed deeply, and we are all given a chance to internalize then comment.


From: Pierre Lotis NANKEP [mailto:lnankep at yahoo.fr]
Sent: Friday, November 02, 2012 9:35 AM
To: africann at afrinic.net
Cc: Badru Ntege
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Internet regulation at national level?

It's always good to know where we come from.
Here is the way we followed to get at this idea of ​​organizing a Webminar:
- step 1 : Debate on "The ICANN Africa Strategy" Is Not the Same as the 'African Agenda<http://www.circleid.com/posts/20121024_icann_africa_strategy_is_not_the_same_as_the_african_agenda/>" (introduce by Gideon)
- Step 2 : New subject "Let's be proactive" base on the previous debate (introduce by Pierre D.)
   2.1 ICT Policy (introduce by Yassin)
   2.2. Internet Regulation (introduce by Pierre N.)
- Step 3 : New subject "Internet regulation at national level?" base on the compilation on the above outcome (introduce by Nii)
   3.1 Here come the idea of a webinar (introduce by Pierre N.)
   3.2 Support by AfriNIC to organise that webinar (introduce by Adiel)

Dear Badru, that is a brief summary of our discussions.
Your question "Out of curiosity what is the Agenda for this webinar ??" : We are all invited to contribute to the development of the Agenda.

Today, another subject was proposed by Nii : "African Governments, Internet and Governance". And then it starts to get embarrassing. Why not stay focused on a topic until a specific result?

De : Badru Ntege <badru.ntege at nftconsult.com<mailto:badru.ntege at nftconsult.com>>
À : "africann at afrinic.net<mailto:africann at afrinic.net>" <africann at afrinic.net<mailto:africann at afrinic.net>>
Envoyé le : Jeudi 1 novembre 2012 8h00
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Out of curiosity what is the Agenda for this webinar ??

And what would be the end in mind.  What exactly do we want to achieve ???

From: africann-bounces at afrinic.net<mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net> [mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net] On Behalf Of adamou s. nacer
Sent: Thursday, November 01, 2012 9:29 AM
To: africann at afrinic.net<mailto:africann at afrinic.net>
Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Internet regulation at national level?

I am interested too.
On 31 October 2012 21:25, Y Mshana2003 <ymshana2003 at gmail.com<mailto:ymshana2003 at gmail.com>> wrote:
Me too... Count me in:-)
can it be after 1700hrs West African time please?

From Yassin . Sent from samsung mobile. On O2.

Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr<mailto:lnankep at yahoo.fr>> wrote:

Thanks for your input.
Regarding the webinar, I am ready. Count me amongst the participants.

Best Regards.

Pierre Lotis NANKEP
IT Engineer / ANTIC
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Email (Pro) : pierre.nankep at antic.cm<mailto:pierre.nankep at antic.cm>
GSM : +237 77 66 10 07
De : Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net<mailto:adiel at afrinic.net>>
À : africann at afrinic.net<mailto:africann at afrinic.net>
Envoyé le : Mercredi 31 octobre 2012 9h14
Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Internet regulation at national level?

Dear all,

First of all I think the discussion is getting real and start touching
on some fundamental questions that we need to address in our region and
which are the bottom-line for what we all seems to be looking for:
Internet (and maybe more generally ICT) development in Africa for a
sustainable socio-economical impact.

In the mean time I have spot on an important issue raised several time
in recent posts, which I would like us to get specific about and try
to, in one hand understand the issue and in other hand look at way to
address them efficiently. It is about IP address **regulation**.

On 2012-10-31, at 09:48 AM, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr<mailto:lnankep at yahoo.fr>> wrote:

I also heard that we should regulate IP numbers and domain names at
national level. Well and good but how could this be done when IPs are
administered globally(iana/nro) and regionally through afrinic?

>>Please let us organise a Webinar on this topic... So some will
>>have the opportunity to make some présentation in details.

Just before going further on this, AfriNIC has initiated a Government
Working Group open to Government Reps and Regulators with the goal to
proactively create a framework for discussion and dialogue at that level
on IP address and related issues. The working groups also have a mailing
list afgwg-discuss at afrinic.net<mailto:afgwg-discuss at afrinic.net> and several countries have already
appointed liaison to that working group (http://meeting.afrinic.net/afgwg).
You can also use that forum to have this discussion with a wider Africa
regulators/governments audience.

Coming back to the point, Pierre N. and others on the list who have
expressed concern in that area, can you be a bit more specify? Pierre has
mentioned WHOIS services and data accuracy that need to be regulated.
Putting aside the scary word "regulation" here, I will agree that WHOIS
related issues are important to look at in our region. So in order to
move the discussion forward, what are the "regulation" measures that you
think government should take to solve the problem of accuracy? What are
regulators doing right now to encourage Network Operator in their
respective jurisdiction to properly register and update their IP addresses
usage in the public WHOIS database already provided by AFRINIC? Can that
already be a starting point?

In April this year we have received a Policy proposal "AfriNIC Whois
Database Clean-up" AFPUB-2012-GEN-001-DRAFT-01<http://www.afrinic.net/en/library/policies/archive/699-afrinic-whois-database-clean-up-draft1> (still under discussion)
which, if approved by the community, will trigger a process to cleanup
our IP address WHOIS database. That proposal in fact reinforced the fact
that the issue of WHOIS data accuracy is also of concern for operators
as well. How are regulators contributing to the debate and the elaboration
of such a policy? How can this be efficiently translated into the local
framework without creating unnecessary additional layer of bureaucracy
and/or complexity? Simply put, what is your take on the policy proposal?

I would encourage you and anyone interested to contribute to the
discussion that is happening on that specific policy for instance by
joining AFRINC RPD mailing list at rpd at afrinic.net<mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>]. More about our
open Policy development Process can be found at:


Finally I would like to take on your suggestion to have a webminar session
on the topic. AFRINIC will be happy to provide the logistic for it. But in
order to plan it well, we will need to know how many people are interested

Thank you.

- a.

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