[AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history

Tue Jul 3 09:06:57 SAST 2012

Calvin,

Thanks for refreshing (all of our memories) on some of the less noticeable
and easy to be missed aspects of the .africa history.

Best regards,

Brian

On Tue, Jul 3, 2012 at 9:25 AM, Calvin Browne <calvin at orange-tree.alt.za>wrote:

>  On 02/07/2012 16:37, Dr Yassin Mshana wrote:
>
> Hello Africans,
>
>  I think we are getting somewhere now.
>
> How comes no one knows anything about <.africa> issues in the past?
>
>
> It's simple - they came after this happened, or their memories are fading.
>
>
>
>  Can we accurate please? That will be the misleading information that I
> had mentioned to Rebecca.
>
>
> Agreed - which is why I'm providing references (which took some time to
> dig up).
>
>
>  I know and remember that the issue of <.africa> did not come up and
> should not have been considered by ccTLD (ccNSO) constituent since there is
> and was gTLD Constituent which was responsible for that issue.
>
>
> Not entirely correct.
> There was a DNSO (Domain Name Support Organisation) which had several
> 'constituencies'. Only later did the cc's organise into a separate
> Supporting Organisation (I think it was first mooted in Stockholm). So,
> basically, the cc's only had a 'separate' voice later. Until the ccNSO was
> formed, everything they did was channelled through the DNSO, now the GNSO.
> As I mainly hung out in the cc group, it was the logical place for me to
> get some opposition to what was, in my eyes, a recolonisation attempt.
> I was not alone in this effort - and lots of other people, Africans and
> non-Africans were involved in this opposition.
>
>
>  May I suggest that we provide accurate information please? If one does
> not know - just say so please - the issues was beyond your mandate. Fellow
> Africans, let us be professional by giving accurate information to the
> journalist please! No room for anything else but a True Story...
>
>
> Well - you're welcome to believe a woman who arrived half way on the
> scene, and implemented a business plan which I outlined to her in a lunch
> meeting in São Paulo in 2006, and subsequently claimed the idea as her own.
>
> Or, you could go look at the records (which admittedly takes time).
>
> It was only when I saw clear errors which were going to put forward that I
> felt the need to spend the hour or two doing research to get substantiation.
>
> And I did outline the stuff which I've substantiated above to 'Becky.
> Although I got my initial dates wrong by a year.
>
> regards
>
> --Calvin
>
>
>
>  May I request this to apply in everything we communicate?  It is
> impossible one to know everything....or it is?
>
>  That is all for now on this
>
>  Yassin (Neutral and 24/7 for Africa!!)
>
>
> On 2 July 2012 12:19, Calvin Browne <calvin at orange-tree.alt.za> wrote:
>
>> On 02/07/2012 13:10, Calvin Browne wrote:
>>
>>> On 28/06/2012 13:24, Dandjinou Pierre wrote:
>>>
>>>> Rebecca,
>>>>
>>>> Good you are writing the history of .Africa
>>>>
>>>> To my knowledge, there has not been any application for the .Africa
>>>> string, apart from those we now have with the new gTLD programme.
>>>>
>>>
>>> There was an actual application in one of the previous rounds. The
>>> applicant even paid a fee, but never came to present.
>>>
>>> I personally helped to pen the GAC' s opposition statement to this
>>> application. This statement was, if memory serves me right, actually
>>> adopted by the Country Code TLD Registry Constituency, as it was then
>>> known, largely intact.
>>>
>>> Herewith the application list concerned:
>>>
>>> http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/tld-applications-lodged-02oct00.htm
>>>
>>> regards
>>>
>>> --Calvin
>>>
>>
>>  >From
>>>
>> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111500.html- the cc's report was summarised (Ben Edelmann had a habit of summing up
>> what was actually said) as "African ICANN participants: Urge vigilance when
>> delegating regional TLDs, especially regions without a developed Internet
>> community. "
>>
>> Also:
>>
>> http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111400.html
>>
>> "
>> C. ccTLD Constituency: Past 2 days with over 40 ccTLDs present, got
>> substantial and sometimes unanimous consensus on 4 items. Materials at
>> http://www.wwtld.org .
>> 1. Contract for services between ccTLDs and ICANN.
>> 2. Discussed �best practice� document. Further discussion at 10:30.
>> 3. Object to regional geographic names for new TLDs (�.africa�).
>> "
>>
>> Seems even the ISP constituency got on board:
>>
>> "
>> D. ISP Constituency: Tony Harris presenting.
>> <SNIP>
>> 4. New gTLDs: Aware of concerns about .africa. Advise careful and
>> deliberate rollout of new TLDs to cope with land rush problems. Concerned
>> that review may have been biased. Expenses of process should be made public.
>> "
>>
>> I can't find the GAC's letter - they had a habit of storing it on a
>> separate server.
>>
>> regards
>>
>> --Calvin
>>
>>
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