[AfrICANN-discuss] Help with .africa history

[Calvin Browne]

On 02/07/2012 16:37, Dr Yassin Mshana wrote:
> Hello Africans,
>
> I think we are getting somewhere now.
>
> How comes no one knows anything about <.africa> issues in the past?

It's simple - they came after this happened, or their memories are fading.

>
> Can we accurate please? That will be the misleading information that I 
> had mentioned to Rebecca.

Agreed - which is why I'm providing references (which took some time to 
dig up).
>
> I know and remember that the issue of <.africa> did not come up and 
> should not have been considered by ccTLD (ccNSO) constituent since 
> there is and was gTLD Constituent which was responsible for that issue.

Not entirely correct.
There was a DNSO (Domain Name Support Organisation) which had several 
'constituencies'. Only later did the cc's organise into a separate 
Supporting Organisation (I think it was first mooted in Stockholm). So, 
basically, the cc's only had a 'separate' voice later. Until the ccNSO 
was formed, everything they did was channelled through the DNSO, now the 
GNSO.
As I mainly hung out in the cc group, it was the logical place for me to 
get some opposition to what was, in my eyes, a recolonisation attempt.
I was not alone in this effort - and lots of other people, Africans and 
non-Africans were involved in this opposition.
>
> May I suggest that we provide accurate information please? If one does 
> not know - just say so please - the issues was beyond your mandate. 
> Fellow Africans, let us be professional by giving accurate information 
> to the journalist please! No room for anything else but a True Story...

Well - you're welcome to believe a woman who arrived half way on the 
scene, and implemented a business plan which I outlined to her in a 
lunch meeting in São Paulo in 2006, and subsequently claimed the idea as 
her own.

Or, you could go look at the records (which admittedly takes time).

It was only when I saw clear errors which were going to put forward that 
I felt the need to spend the hour or two doing research to get 
substantiation.

And I did outline the stuff which I've substantiated above to 'Becky. 
Although I got my initial dates wrong by a year.

regards

--Calvin

>
> May I request this to apply in everything we communicate?  It is 
> impossible one to know everything....or it is?
>
> That is all for now on this
>
> Yassin (Neutral and 24/7 for Africa!!)
>
>
> On 2 July 2012 12:19, Calvin Browne <calvin at orange-tree.alt.za 
> <mailto:calvin at orange-tree.alt.za>> wrote:
>
>     On 02/07/2012 13:10, Calvin Browne wrote:
>
>         On 28/06/2012 13:24, Dandjinou Pierre wrote:
>
>             Rebecca,
>
>             Good you are writing the history of .Africa
>
>             To my knowledge, there has not been any application for
>             the .Africa
>             string, apart from those we now have with the new gTLD
>             programme.
>
>
>         There was an actual application in one of the previous rounds.
>         The applicant even paid a fee, but never came to present.
>
>         I personally helped to pen the GAC' s opposition statement to
>         this application. This statement was, if memory serves me
>         right, actually adopted by the Country Code TLD Registry
>         Constituency, as it was then known, largely intact.
>
>         Herewith the application list concerned:
>
>         http://archive.icann.org/en/tlds/tld-applications-lodged-02oct00.htm
>
>         regards
>
>         --Calvin
>
>
>         >From
>
>     http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111500.html
>     - the cc's report was summarised (Ben Edelmann had a habit of
>     summing up what was actually said) as "African ICANN participants:
>     Urge vigilance when delegating regional TLDs, especially regions
>     without a developed Internet community. "
>
>     Also:
>
>     http://cyber.law.harvard.edu/icann/la2000/archive/scribe-icann-111400.html
>
>     "
>     C. ccTLD Constituency: Past 2 days with over 40 ccTLDs present,
>     got substantial and sometimes unanimous consensus on 4 items.
>     Materials at http://www.wwtld.org .
>     1. Contract for services between ccTLDs and ICANN.
>     2. Discussed ?best practice? document. Further discussion at 10:30.
>     3. Object to regional geographic names for new TLDs (?.africa?).
>     "
>
>     Seems even the ISP constituency got on board:
>
>     "
>     D. ISP Constituency: Tony Harris presenting.
>     <SNIP>
>     4. New gTLDs: Aware of concerns about .africa. Advise careful and
>     deliberate rollout of new TLDs to cope with land rush problems.
>     Concerned that review may have been biased. Expenses of process
>     should be made public.
>     "
>
>     I can't find the GAC's letter - they had a habit of storing it on
>     a separate server.
>
>     regards
>
>     --Calvin
>
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