[AfrICANN-discuss] Is it relevant to know who is who on the AfrICANN list?

Mon Dec 31 00:35:45 SAST 2012

Hello Adiel,

Thanks for your valuable comments... Even if they arrive late because voting ends in less than 24 hours.

1rst set of questions : What is the purpurse [of this poll] ? Who is/is_not entitle to take the poll? How do you control that? 
I followed with great attention the discussions on this list. And it became very clear that there are differences on identity and authenticity of members.
Whereas AfrICANN is a completely open list so far, I consider it appropriate to seek the views of members to justify any future proposal of the redesign of this list. Given the context of the debates that are tense, I chose a way of anonymous voting based on conscience and morality of members (ethics).
Also, notice that a link is established with the IP address of the voter. So you understand that there is no interest for a member to vote multiple times (with his friends, his dog and his cat).

1rst remark : ... not to be anonymous ...
What is the policy implemented by AfriNIC for this to be so? Honestly I do not know. Thank you for sharing this policy with us.

2rd remark : ... to be taken only by people who have been on the list and/or active on it over the past minimum 2 years ...
Is there a predefined procedure or you just make that decision ... Or is it a proposal? In other words, if I understand correctly, you are suggesting that new members take 2 years to observe before intervening?

3rd remark : Trying to meet the above 2 points alone will make you quickly realise that the poll by itself is inappropriate to answer the question you are asking …
It's possible. It is your opinion that I respect. What about the 26 members who took the time to give their views by voting?

4th remark : On a more general note, has it happened to any of you who are vehemently questioning the expertise of people ....
I do not think this remark is addressed to me personally ... But this is not really a bad idea to ask some experts to be humble.

2nd set of question : ... ask yourself what is the genesis of this list? What was it purpose and objective?
This is what i knew about the AfrICANN list : "This list is a common area of discussion for the Internet community in Africa, and more precisely for those involved or willing to be involved in the ICANN processes."
I do not know if this has changed.

3rd question : Who came up with the idea and to achieve what?
I think the answer is at : https://lists.afrinic.net/pipermail/africann/2007-March/author.html.
I take this opportunity to congratulate the creators. However, it is not permit to a father or mother to kill or mistreat her baby. If this is the case, family members and neighbors will be forced to rescue the baby.

5th remark : I think trying to understand that a lone would have cut 90% of this never-ending loop of the debate that is going on for a while now
Dear Adiel, I'm not the source of endless and meaningless  debates that take place on this list ... This is also why I suggested the vote.

Human work is never perfect. Improvement is a continuous and perpetual process.

Thanks a lot for your valuable comments.

--
Pierre Lotis NANKEP

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>De : Adiel Akplogan <adiel at afrinic.net>
>À : Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr>; africann at afrinic.net 
>Envoyé le : Dimanche 30 décembre 2012 21h50
>Objet : Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] Is it relevant to know who is who on the AfrICANN list?
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>Hello Pierre, 
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>Allow me to make few comments on this poll. What is it purpose? 
>Who is/is_not entitle to take the poll? How do you control that? 
>For it to have the weight that you wish, it may has: 
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>1 - not to be anonymous - this list being an open forum of 
>    discussion created specially with that intend. People 
>    expressing opinion on how the list must be run should 
>    be known and be able to transparently display their views.
>2 - to be taken only by people who have been on the list and/or 
>    active on it over the past minimum 2 years. (If I want the 
>    result of the poll to go into a particular direction what 
>    prevent me to request all my family, my dogs, my cats, 
>    neighbours to take the poll and say what I want them to say?.
>
>
>Trying to meet the above 2 points alone will make you quickly 
>realise that the poll by itself is inappropriate to answer the 
>question you are asking … 
>
>
>On a more general note, has it happened to any of you who are 
>vehemently questioning the expertise of people on the list and 
>trowing stones all over to ask yourself what is the genesis of 
>this list? What was it purpose and objective? Who came up with 
>the idea and to achieve what? I think trying to understand that 
>a lone would have cut 90% of this never-ending loop of the debate 
>that is going on for a while now.
>
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>Thanks.
>
>
>- a.
>On 2012-12-30, at 11:09 AM, Pierre Lotis NANKEP <lnankep at yahoo.fr> wrote:
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>Poll on the question : Is it relevant to know who is who on the AfrICANN list?
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>>Please click to express your own opinion... or http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SKFJXJN
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>>Live result by December 30, 2012 (08:30 am GMT) :
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>>Number of voters : 22 (+4)
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>>Origin of voters :
>>1. Cameroon (41.202.205.250)
>>2. Gambia (212.60.65.174)
>>3. USA - New York - Holtsville (75.37.44.104)
>>4. Japan (115.162.51.10)
>>5. Malawi (41.78.59.20)
>>6. Comoros (197.255.232.2)
>>7. Kenya (197.176.11.64)
>>8. Mauritius (197.225.46.34)
>>9. United Kingdom (93.186.23.82)
>>10. South Africa (41.244.138.47)
>>11. Togo (41.207.184.25)
>>12. Cameroon (41.202.201.63)
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>>13. United Kingdom (93.186.31.85)
>>14. Togo (41.207.171.105)
>>15. Germany (78.41.227.84)
>>16. Senegal (41.82.142.219)
>>17. Uganda (41.202.233.177)
>>18. Cameroon (195.24.206.125)
>>19. Nigeria (41.220.69.43) 
>>20. Mauritius (197.225.59.10) 
>>21. Switzerland (178.193.208.123)
>>22. Nigeria (41.71.162.180)
>>  
>>Please click to express your own opinion... or http://www.surveymonkey.com/s/SKFJXJN
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>>The vote will end by December 31, 2012, at 23H GMT. Only 2 days left.
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>>Thanks to those who already voted... The results will be published on January 1rst, 2013.
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>>Let us be guided by ethics...
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