[AfrICANN-discuss] on dots and cities

[Mawaki Chango]

You're welcome, Vika.
As a matter of fact, ICANN has been trying to avoid someone
"running afterwards" :) to become a registry of .[city], whether
there already exist .[city].[cctld] or not. The case of .berlin
is quite interesting. Recently, based on issues raised by the
GAC, they have to document all the other cities/towns around the
world that bear the same name, and show how they are trying to
build consensus.

It seems applying to become a .[city] registry is not that easy,
and will be less and less so. The least one can expect is that
the applicant has to gather support from real constituencies
living in the location (so including the .[city].[cctld] if
any), if not beyond.

You're right, this will certainly increase occurrences of
name/trademark dispute resolution, but I guess just as every new
gTLD does.

I just thought it might be worth giving hope :)

Mawaki

--- Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za> wrote:

> Thanks Mawaki. It's do-able & may raise an interesting dispute
> resolution
> process where you register dakar.sn and I run afterwards to
> register a
> .dakar TLD:-) But that's the reason why ICANN's policy
> processes exist & may
> be it's high time ICANN should start anticipating this???
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: africann-bounces at afrinic.net
> [mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net] On
> Behalf Of Mawaki Chango
> Sent: 15 May 2007 16:23
> To: africann at afrinic.net
> Subject: RE: [AfrICANN-discuss] on dots and cities
> 
> > Should we anticipate the DNS extended to such levels? 
> 
> I'm sure you should, and as you anticipate, policy-making will
> be more and
> more complex but still doable. As to whether that would be
> ICANN's or ccTLD
> responsibility, it depends where you want to be in the domain
> name space.
> Those cities want to be visible at the global top level of the
> DNS, so they
> have to turn to ICANN. Otherwise, they may as well address
> their respective
> ccTLD and feature at second level, e.g., .dakar.sn or
> .paris.fr.
> 
> So the applicants have the choice of the level, and the locus
> of policy
> authority will ensue accordingly.
> 
> Mawaki
> 
> --- Vika Mpisane <vika at zadna.org.za> wrote:
> 
> > Thanks, Calvin & Adiel, for clarifiying this piece of news. 
> > 
> > It was a bit confusing & indeed somewhat painted a picture
> of how far 
> > behind Africa is. It does give one an idea of how far the
> DNS can go 
> > in establishing different kinds of TLDs. We're used to
> ccTLDs & gTLDs 
> > being probably the "only" kinds of TLDs. But if in the
> future we'll 
> > allow TLDs such as city-specific TLDs, I guess policy-making
> will 
> > continue to be an interesting & pressing issue within ICANN
> & Internet 
> > governance in general.
> > 
> > Should we anticipate the DNS extended to such levels? And
> would that 
> > be an ICANN or just a ccTLD policy issue? My uninformed gut
> feel is 
> > city-specific TLDs would have to be a ccTLD issue???
> > 
> > Regards,
> > 
> > Vika Mpisane
> > .za Domain Name Authority
> > Tel: +27 11 275 0082
> > Fax: +27 11 234 5022
> >  
> > "Life lies not in never falling, but in rising when you
> fall."
> > Nelson Mandela, 1995, Eastern Cape.
> > 
> > 
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: africann-bounces at afrinic.net
> > [mailto:africann-bounces at afrinic.net] On Behalf Of Calvin
> Browne
> > Sent: 14 May 2007 16:35
> > To: africann at afrinic.net
> > Subject: Re: [AfrICANN-discuss] on dots and cities
> > 
> > On Mon, 2007-05-14 at 14:19 +0300, Rebecca Wanjiku wrote:
> > > i think it also goes along way to demonstrate africa's
> > slumber....
> > > we are still grappling with whether to support our ccTLDs
> > while others
> > > have moved to cities
> > > 
> > > i will not be surprised that some of us will dash to
> acquire
> > these
> > > domains instead of supporting our own,
> > > 
> > > bex
> > 
> > <my opinions here>
> > 
> > Before you go and believe this rubbish (that .LA is assigned
> to Los
> > Angeles) please have a look at
> > http://www.iana.org/root-whois/la.htm .
> > 
> > Basically, the domain for Lao People's Democratic Republic
> is being 
> > marketed to the people of Los Angeles - in a manner that is 
> > questionable at best, and down right fraudulent as worst.
> > 
> > regards
> > 
> > --Calvin
> > 
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