[rpd] AFRINIC-38 Public Policy Meeting-Cape Town, South Africa, 18 November 2026

Sat Aug 29 08:03:07 UTC 2026

Aha, so one more clash, so very well thought-out decision on the AFRINIC meeting dates!

That’s apart from the security issue.

Regards,
Jordi

@jordipalet

> El 29 ago 2026, a las 9:02, Abdulkarim Oloyede <oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> escribió:
> 
> Hi,
> I support Jordi for 2 resons
> 
> 1. South Africa is not currently a safe location for Africans cos of what has been happening  in recent days across South Africa. I was to go for a meeting in Johanesburg 1st week in September but my employer kicked against it and the cost of travel insurance went crazy because of the several attacks on others Aficans and Nigerians in particular It is a sad situation but it is the reality.  We cannot hide away from this fact. I am sure i am not alone on this. 
> 
> 2. ITU Plenipotentiary Confrence is from from 9th to 27th November in Doha. 
> 
> Thanks
> 
> Prof Abdulkarim Oloyede
> Professor of Wireless Telecommunications 
> Director, Center for Research Development and In-house Training 
> University of Ilorin. 
> 
> On Sat, Aug 29, 2026, 3:01 AM Ben Roberts - AfriNIC via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:
>> Jordi,
>> With regards to flight costs.  Actually flights within Africa are far more expensive than flights from other continents to Africa. Hence the choice of destination and time for the meeting was timed specifically due to other events in Cape Town in order to maximise the participation, since many Afrinic Resource Members especially will be there for that week anyway. 
>> 
>> Kind regards
>> Ben
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On 28 Aug 2026, at 22:07, jordi.palet--- via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Seun,
>>> 
>>> There are more weeks in November, the week after could have been better and served the purpose of capturing some of the people that already traveled to the other even, without creating a clash. I also recall (may be wrong, as it is from top of my head), AFRINIC meetings early December.
>>> 
>>> Again, is not only about people from Africa. AFRINIC community is global, same as the other RIRs. Not being able to travel to IETF doesn’t preclude participating. You can do it remotely. Visa issues are excuses also because if you wanted to be there, you must have arranged your visa much earlier, not right now. IETF in SF has been confirmed already several YEARS ago, not just now!
>>> 
>>> The board has chosen dates that disallow frequent contributors to PPM to participate. That’s it. For me, 2nd time in a row, as I was already booked in Brussels for something else during the previous PPM, that time I decided to cancel the Brussels meeting, which was not good at all.
>>> 
>>> Very bad, ugly and late organization of meetings. Unacceptable. As said, I disagree that we need another meeting now. It is much much much much much better to better organizar a meeting in 8-10 months from now (our regular meeting in April-May) and facilitate the people organize their agendas and book cheaper flights. Of course, the board and the staff never mind about that, because they don’t pay from their own pocket, so a very clear lack of consideration towards those that contribute and pay from their own pocket.
>>> 
>>> This is very ugly, bad, and I will repeat it for 1.000 times if needed: Lack of consideration. Thanks for that! This is the way you want the community to contribute!
>>> 
>>> Regards,
>>> Jordi
>>> 
>>> @jordipalet
>>> 
>>>> El 28 ago 2026, a las 19:26, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com <mailto:seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>> escribió:
>>>> 
>>>> Hello Jordi,
>>>> 
>>>> A second ppm needed to be held in 2026. Normally these dates are known much earlier than this but as you are aware, AFRINIC is just resuming fully hence I think you would understand the challenge. 
>>>> 
>>>> It will not be good service to the PDWG to move a meeting that ought to hold in 2026 to 2027 because of an IETF meeting that is holding in the USA which majority of AFRINIC attendee may not be able to attend physically due to many factors including visa.
>>>> 
>>>> December is usually a short month so not an option. I think the board has taken the best feasible option which I am sure even the IETF would understand.
>>>> 
>>>> Regards
>>>> 
>>>> ----
>>>> Sent from my mobile
>>>> kindly excuse typos
>>>> 
>>>> On Fri, 28 Aug 2026, 11:44 am jordi.palet--- via RPD, <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Ben,
>>>>> 
>>>>> I understood that rationale from Andrew message, but I think is broken:
>>>>> 
>>>>> 1) When several meetings take place in the same city, same dates, you loose participation in the one that is less interesting. Guess which one will be. We have seen that in a recent LACNIC meeting in Sao Paulo, together with another event from Brazil ISPs association. The registration was higher, but the real attendance in the meeting rooms of the LACNIC meeting was much lower than usually. This is not the first time I’ve seen that.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2) I can’t believe that there was no other place in the African continent that was safe and capable of holding an AFRINIC event. Do you want to bet that I can find some? It is clear that the decision was 1 above and not a good research was done to find other locations.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 3) There is no obligation, neither I think any emergency reason, to hold another meeting this year (even I think for sure some venue can be found for November-December). We can perfectly find a place in the 1Q2027, have more time to plan, so people can get cheaper flights, etc.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 4) Do you really think any other RIR will ever do meeting clashing with an IETF (or ICANN, or another RIR meeting)?
>>>>> 
>>>>> I think if we want more attendance and better preparation, we should target to the usual timing that we had before for next year, so around April-May then November-December, and of course, avoid any clash with other community meetings.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Regards,
>>>>> Jordi
>>>>> 
>>>>> @jordipalet
>>>>> 
>>>>>> El 28 ago 2026, a las 18:26, Ben Roberts - AfriNIC <ben.roberts at afrinic.net <mailto:ben.roberts at afrinic.net>> escribió:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Jordi,
>>>>>> The rationale for picking the date and location was that it is the same week and city as the Africa Tech Festival and the South Africa Peering forum. This choice was made in order to encourage the maximum participation since many people already travel to Cape Town that week. There really aren’t any alternative dates and locations that would enable the second meeting of 2026 to be squeezed in. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Kind Regards
>>>>>> Ben  
>>>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 28 Aug 2026, at 15:57, jordi.palet--- via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> There is an agreement among all the RIRs, IETF, ICANN, ISOC, etc. to avoid clashes in their meetings.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> This is being organized the SAME week as the IETF in San Francisco. This was fixed many years ago.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Clearly the AFRINIC MUST change the dates for this meeting.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>> Jordi
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> @jordipalet
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> El 28 ago 2026, a las 13:51, AFRINIC Communication via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net <mailto:rpd at afrinic.net>> escribió:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> [Version en français au bas]
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Dear Colleagues,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We are pleased to announce that the AFRINIC-38 Public Policy Meeting (PPM) will be held on Wednesday, 18 November 2026, in Cape Town, South Africa.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> AFRINIC-38 will be held in a hybrid format, enabling participants from across Africa and around the world to discuss and review Internet number resource policies that guide the management and distribution of Internet number resources within the AFRINIC service region.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Your participation is important, as the outcomes of these discussions contribute to shaping policies that affect the Internet ecosystem, businesses, and digital development across Africa. We therefore encourage AFRINIC members and the wider Internet community to participate, share their perspectives, and contribute to an open and inclusive Policy Development Process.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Further details, including the programme, registration process, venue, and participation arrangements, will be communicated in due course.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> We look forward to welcoming you to AFRINIC-38 in Cape Town.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> AFRINIC Communication
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> ……………………………………
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Chers membres de la communauté,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nous avons le plaisir de vous annoncer que la Réunion de politique publique AFRINIC-38 (PPM) se tiendra le mercredi 18 novembre 2026 à Cape Town, en Afrique du Sud.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> AFRINIC-38 se déroulera en format hybride, permettant aux participants de toute l’Afrique et du reste du monde de discuter et d’examiner les politiques relatives aux ressources numériques Internet qui encadrent la gestion et la distribution de ces ressources dans la région de service d’AFRINIC.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Votre participation est importante, car les resultats de ces discussions contribuent à façonner des politiques qui ont un impact sur l’écosystème Internet, les entreprises et le développement numérique en Afrique. Nous encourageons donc les membres d’AFRINIC ainsi que l’ensemble de la communauté Internet à participer, à partager leurs points de vue et à contribuer à un processus d’élaboration des politiques ouvert et inclusif.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> De plus amples informations, notamment sur le programme, les modalités d’inscription, le lieu et les conditions de participation, seront communiquées prochainement.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Nous nous réjouissons de vous accueillir à AFRINIC-38 à Cape Town.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Cordialement,
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Communication AFRINIC
>>>>>>>> 
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