[rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 222, Issue 81

[Nia Petronella]

Hi Ben,

Participants may introduce themselves if they choose, but an introduction
should not become a condition for having an argument considered.

This is an open policy forum, not a membership interview. Contributions
should be assessed on their substance, not on how familiar the speaker is
or how long they have been present.

Regards,
Nonhlanhla

On Mon, 20 Jul 2026, 9:41 am ben.roberts at frinic.net <ben.roberts at afrinic.net>
wrote:

> Nonhlanhla,
>
> Perhaps the new participants would like to introduce themselves, with some
> context of their new interest in IP address policy making?
>
> Kind Regards,
> Ben
>
> *From: *Nia Petronella <nonhlanhlapetronella85 at gmail.com>
> *Date: *Monday, 20 July 2026 at 09:38
> *To: *rpd at afrinic.net <rpd at afrinic.net>
> *Subject: *Re: [rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 222, Issue 81
>
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> Dear PDWG,
>
> A pattern is becoming clear: familiar names are treated as authoritative,
> while newer participants are questioned, graded, or dismissed.
>
> That is gatekeeping, not consensus.
>
> An open process should test arguments, not reputations. Participation is
> evidence and objection; being well known does not create a mandate to
> decide whose voice counts.
>
> Regards,
> Nonhlanhla
>
> On Mon, 20 Jul 2026, 9:35 am <rpd-request at afrinic.net> wrote:
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>    1. Subject: Re: [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical
>       Names for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02) (Thulisile
> Mazomba)
>    2. Re: [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical Names
>       for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02) (Tshepo Masuku)
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> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 07:24:43 +0000
> From: Thulisile Mazomba <219280444 at mycput.ac.za>
> To: Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz>, "rpd at afrinic.net"
>         <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Cc: "rpd-owner at afrinic.ne" <rpd-owner at afrinic.ne>
> Subject: [rpd] Subject: Re: [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ?
>         Hierarchical Names for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02)
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> Hi Frank,
>
> An improvement is not automatically a justification for mandatory policy.
>
> The question is whether the benefit is significant enough, proven enough,
> and proportionate enough to place in the registry?s compulsory layer.
> Saying ?it helps? does not answer that.
>
> And no, raising those questions does not mean the objection came first. It
> means policy power should be tested before it is expanded.
>
> I remain opposed.
>
> Regards,
> Thulisile
> ________________________________
> From: Frank Habicht <geier at geier.ne.tz>
> Sent: Monday, 20 July 2026 06:36:00
> To: Thulisile Mazomba <219280444 at mycput.ac.za>; rpd at afrinic.net <
> rpd at afrinic.net>
> Cc: rpd-owner at afrinic.ne <rpd-owner at afrinic.ne>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical Names
> for New AS-SETs (AFPUB-2026-ASN-001-DRAFT02)
>
> Hi,
>
> On 7/19/2026 11:29 PM, Thulisile Mazomba wrote:
> >
> > Hi Frank,
> >
> > You appear to be treating your disagreement with an objection as proof
> > that no technical objection exists.
> >
> > The proposal prevents one naming collision. It does not establish the
> > correctness of the routing data attached to that name,
>
> The proposal does not fix *all* problems. and it doesn't claim to do so.
> It creates an improvement.
> I don't agree that it is ok to object just because this proposal does
> not fix *all* problems.
>
> Do you agree it provides improvements?
>
> > nor prove that
> > mandatory registry control is the only proportionate remedy.
>
> it's not intended to prove that.
>
> >
> > Those are technical and policy questions. Declaring them invalid does
> > not resolve them.
> They are not good reasons against the proposal.
>
> But some people maybe want to be against the proposal first and then are
> looking for "questions".
>
> Frank
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> Date: Mon, 20 Jul 2026 07:34:21 +0000
> From: Tshepo Masuku <TshepoMasuku26 at hotmail.com>
> To: "rpd at afrinic.net" <rpd at afrinic.net>, "geier at geier.ne.tz"
>         <geier at geier.ne.tz>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] [Last Call] Draft Policy Proposal ? Hierarchical
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> Hi Frank,
>
> You keep positioning yourself as the referee of which objections count.
>
> That is not your role. Participants are allowed to question whether a
> useful change belongs in mandatory policy. Dismissing those concerns
> instead of answering them turns discussion into gatekeeping.
>
> A policy room may debate. It does not grant any participant authority to
> police dissent.
>
> I remain opposed.
>
> Regards,
> Tshepo
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