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[rpd] RPD Digest, Vol 218, Issue 7 => QUIP – follow‑up and moving to OIS‑WG
Junior
jjmututicloud at gmail.com
Thu Mar 26 01:24:30 UTC 2026
Dear colleagues,
Thank you for the feedback on my QUIP white paper. I apologise for posting
to the RPD list – I now understand that it is reserved for PDP matters. I
have subscribed to the OIS‑WG list, which is the appropriate forum for
standards discussions, and will continue there.
Several of you asked for more concrete technical detail and diagrams. The
white paper is a strategic overview; the companion technical specification
(separate document) contains the full wire format, state machine
definitions, and Protocol Buffers schemas. I also have a reference
implementation in progress.
To keep the RPD list on‑topic, I won’t post diagrams or lengthy technical
details here. Instead, I invite anyone interested in the protocol to:
· Continue the discussion on the OIS‑WG list (I will start a new thread
there),
· Or contact me directly at jjmututicloud at gmail.com – I am happy to share
the technical specification, architecture diagrams, and discuss
implementation details.
I also want to thank Andrew for the offer to help prepare an IETF
Internet‑Draft. That is the next logical step, and I’ll follow up with him
on that.
I look forward to engaging with the community on OIS‑WG and, hopefully,
presenting QUIP at a future AFRINIC meeting.
Best regards,
Junior Joseph Mututi
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> 1. [QUIP] A new federated identity and interaction layer over
> QUIC ? seeking engagement with the AFRINIC community (Sylvain BAYA)
> 2. Re: [QUIP] A new federated identity and interaction layer
> over QUIC ? seeking engagement with the AFRINIC community
> (Ben Roberts)
> 3. Re: [QUIP] A new federated identity and interaction layer
> over QUIC ? seeking engagement with the AFRINIC community
> (jordi.palet at consulintel.es)
> 4. Re: Policy Compliance Dashboard - Not ratified by AFRINIC
> Board (jordi.palet at consulintel.es)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 10:38:22 +0100
> From: Sylvain BAYA <baya.sylvain at cmnog.cm>
> To: Junior <jjmututicloud at gmail.com>, AfriNIC Resource Policy
> Developement ML <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Cc: rpd at afrinic.net
> Subject: [rpd] [QUIP] A new federated identity and interaction layer
> over QUIC ? seeking engagement with the AFRINIC community
> Message-ID: <53E99F8B-4CBC-48D8-B98E-46258B4E64CF at cmnog.cm>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
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> Le 25 mars 2026 09:47:35 GMT+01:00, "jordi.palet--- via RPD" <
> rpd at afrinic.net> a ?crit?:
> >Fail to see the relation of this with PDP, and this list is only for PDP,
> nothing else.
> >
>
> Dear Junior,
>
> Do kindly consider to subscribe to the
> following more appropriate mailinglist;
> so that you can post your email out there.
>
> OIS-WG Info Page | <https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/ois-wg>
>
> Open Internet Standards Working Group (OIS-WG) - AFRINIC - Regional
> Internet Registry for Africa | <
> https://afrinic.net/open-internet-standards-working-group>
>
> Hope this helps!
>
> Shalom,
> --sb.
>
>
> >
> >Regards,
> >Jordi
> >
> >@jordipalet
> >
> >
> >> El 24 mar 2026, a las 20:31, Ben Roberts - AfriNIC via RPD <
> rpd at afrinic.net> escribi?:
> >>
> >> Junior,
> >> Thanks for this contribution. I confess I am at a complete loss to
> understand the white paper at all. I am relatively tech savvy and able to
> interpret standards etc, but I?m lost in so many words. I would suggest
> some diagrams might help to communicate the complex ideas that the paper is
> conveying.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> Ben
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 24 Mar 2026, at 22:02, Junior <jjmututicloud at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>> Dear AFRINIC RPD list members,
> >>>
> >>> My name is Junior Joseph Mututi, and I?ve been working on a new
> protocol called QUIP (QUIC Identity Protocol). QUIP is designed as an open,
> federated identity and interaction layer built entirely on QUIC (RFC 9000).
> > [...]
> >
>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 13:48:08 +0300
> From: Ben Roberts <ben.roberts at afrinic.net>
> To: "jordi.palet at consulintel.es" <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
> Cc: rpd at afrinic.net
> Subject: Re: [rpd] [QUIP] A new federated identity and interaction
> layer over QUIC ? seeking engagement with the AFRINIC community
> Message-ID: <1C8227DD-58A3-447D-9C76-47D7BBF5215D at afrinic.net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Jordi,
> Let us use this space to encourage new participators and help them to
> nurture their ideas, rather than shutting them down.
>
> Regards
>
> Ben
>
> > On 25 Mar 2026, at 11:47, jordi.palet--- via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
> wrote:
> >
> > Fail to see the relation of this with PDP, and this list is only for
> PDP, nothing else.
> >
> > Regards,
> > Jordi
> >
> > @jordipalet
> >
> >
> >> El 24 mar 2026, a las 20:31, Ben Roberts - AfriNIC via RPD <
> rpd at afrinic.net> escribi?:
> >>
> >> Junior,
> >> Thanks for this contribution. I confess I am at a complete loss to
> understand the white paper at all. I am relatively tech savvy and able to
> interpret standards etc, but I?m lost in so many words. I would suggest
> some diagrams might help to communicate the complex ideas that the paper is
> conveying.
> >>
> >> Kind regards
> >> Ben
> >>
> >>
> >> Sent from my iPhone
> >>
> >>> On 24 Mar 2026, at 22:02, Junior <jjmututicloud at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> ?
> >>> Dear AFRINIC RPD list members,
> >>>
> >>> My name is Junior Joseph Mututi, and I?ve been working on a new
> protocol called QUIP (QUIC Identity Protocol). QUIP is designed as an open,
> federated identity and interaction layer built entirely on QUIC (RFC 9000).
> It combines the domain-based addressing of XMPP, the vocabulary of
> ActivityStreams, and a novel trust model where ISPs act as neutral trust
> anchors ? verifying user identities without owning them.
> >>>
> >>> The protocol?s whitepaper (attached) details its architecture: a
> generic state machine over QUIC, ISP?based attestation, a distributed CA
> foundation, end?to?end encryption extensions, and built?in federation
> mechanics. It is meant to run in parallel with the existing web and to give
> ISPs a direct role in enabling secure, privacy?respecting communication for
> their subscribers.
> >>>
> >>> I?m reaching out to the AFRINIC community because Africa is a key
> region for QUIP?s vision. The whitepaper notes (Section 13.3.1) that
> Africa?s ISP landscape ? with its growing number of operators, mobile?first
> connectivity, and strong data sovereignty concerns ? is a natural early
> adopter. I?d like to present QUIP at an upcoming AFRINIC meeting (e.g.,
> AFRINIC?OPEN) to get feedback from network engineers, policy makers, and
> the ISP community.
> >>>
> >>> Specifically, I?d be grateful for:
> >>>
> >>> ? Guidance on how to propose a presentation or technical talk at an
> AFRINIC meeting.
> >>> ? Feedback on the ISP trust model and its alignment with regional
> regulatory frameworks.
> >>> ? Interest from ISPs willing to participate in a pilot deployment (the
> whitepaper outlines a potential Zimbabwe pilot with ZISPA and POTRAZ).
> >>>
> >>> I welcome any questions or comments ? I?m happy to clarify technical
> details or discuss how QUIP could fit into AFRINIC?s capacity?building and
> infrastructure development goals.
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your time, and I look forward to engaging with the
> community.
> >>>
> >>> Best regards,
> >>> Junior Joseph Mututi
> >>> WhatsApp/Calls: +27658095749/+27812629742
> >>>
> >>> <QUIP_InstitutionalWhitePaper_v1.1.pdf>
> >>> _______________________________________________
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> Message: 3
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 12:19:15 +0100
> From: "jordi.palet at consulintel.es" <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
> To: rpd at afrinic.net
> Subject: Re: [rpd] [QUIP] A new federated identity and interaction
> layer over QUIC ? seeking engagement with the AFRINIC community
> Message-ID: <F0CB7F8D-83CF-468C-A9A4-21D40EF8597E at consulintel.es>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=utf-8
>
> Hi Ben,
>
> Sorry, can?t agree with you this time. Is not about turning down anyone.
> Is about respecting AUP on each mailing list. Each mailing list has a very
> specific scope, and this one, exactly the same as in other RIRs, is
> exclusively for policy discussions. Otherwise, we will have only a single
> mailing list for everything in each region.
>
> Allowing a single off-topic, will not allow later on to dismiss other
> off-topics as it will be discriminatory.
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
>
> > El 25 mar 2026, a las 11:48, Ben Roberts <ben.roberts at afrinic.net>
> escribi?:
> >
> > Jordi,
> > Let us use this space to encourage new participators and help them to
> nurture their ideas, rather than shutting them down.
> >
> > Regards
> >
> > Ben
> >
> >> On 25 Mar 2026, at 11:47, jordi.palet--- via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
> wrote:
> >>
> >> Fail to see the relation of this with PDP, and this list is only for
> PDP, nothing else.
> >>
> >> Regards,
> >> Jordi
> >>
> >> @jordipalet
> >>
> >>
> >>> El 24 mar 2026, a las 20:31, Ben Roberts - AfriNIC via RPD <
> rpd at afrinic.net> escribi?:
> >>>
> >>> Junior,
> >>> Thanks for this contribution. I confess I am at a complete loss to
> understand the white paper at all. I am relatively tech savvy and able to
> interpret standards etc, but I?m lost in so many words. I would suggest
> some diagrams might help to communicate the complex ideas that the paper is
> conveying.
> >>>
> >>> Kind regards
> >>> Ben
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> Sent from my iPhone
> >>>
> >>>> On 24 Mar 2026, at 22:02, Junior <jjmututicloud at gmail.com> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> ?
> >>>> Dear AFRINIC RPD list members,
> >>>>
> >>>> My name is Junior Joseph Mututi, and I?ve been working on a new
> protocol called QUIP (QUIC Identity Protocol). QUIP is designed as an open,
> federated identity and interaction layer built entirely on QUIC (RFC 9000).
> It combines the domain-based addressing of XMPP, the vocabulary of
> ActivityStreams, and a novel trust model where ISPs act as neutral trust
> anchors ? verifying user identities without owning them.
> >>>>
> >>>> The protocol?s whitepaper (attached) details its architecture: a
> generic state machine over QUIC, ISP?based attestation, a distributed CA
> foundation, end?to?end encryption extensions, and built?in federation
> mechanics. It is meant to run in parallel with the existing web and to give
> ISPs a direct role in enabling secure, privacy?respecting communication for
> their subscribers.
> >>>>
> >>>> I?m reaching out to the AFRINIC community because Africa is a key
> region for QUIP?s vision. The whitepaper notes (Section 13.3.1) that
> Africa?s ISP landscape ? with its growing number of operators, mobile?first
> connectivity, and strong data sovereignty concerns ? is a natural early
> adopter. I?d like to present QUIP at an upcoming AFRINIC meeting (e.g.,
> AFRINIC?OPEN) to get feedback from network engineers, policy makers, and
> the ISP community.
> >>>>
> >>>> Specifically, I?d be grateful for:
> >>>>
> >>>> ? Guidance on how to propose a presentation or technical talk at an
> AFRINIC meeting.
> >>>> ? Feedback on the ISP trust model and its alignment with regional
> regulatory frameworks.
> >>>> ? Interest from ISPs willing to participate in a pilot deployment
> (the whitepaper outlines a potential Zimbabwe pilot with ZISPA and POTRAZ).
> >>>>
> >>>> I welcome any questions or comments ? I?m happy to clarify technical
> details or discuss how QUIP could fit into AFRINIC?s capacity?building and
> infrastructure development goals.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thank you for your time, and I look forward to engaging with the
> community.
> >>>>
> >>>> Best regards,
> >>>> Junior Joseph Mututi
> >>>> WhatsApp/Calls: +27658095749/+27812629742
> >>>>
> >>>> <QUIP_InstitutionalWhitePaper_v1.1.pdf>
> >>>> _______________________________________________
> >>>> RPD mailing list
> >>>> RPD at afrinic.net
> >>>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd
> >>>
> >>> _______________________________________________
> >>> RPD mailing list
> >>> RPD at afrinic.net
> >>> https://lists.afrinic.net/mailman/listinfo/rpd
> >>
> >>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2026 12:58:51 +0100
> From: "jordi.palet at consulintel.es" <jordi.palet at consulintel.es>
> To: "rpd >> AfriNIC Resource Policy" <rpd at afrinic.net>
> Subject: Re: [rpd] Policy Compliance Dashboard - Not ratified by
> AFRINIC Board
> Message-ID: <7B86D275-6CA7-4978-8F71-E9B3AF7CC1EE at consulintel.es>
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>
> Hi,
>
> I have major disagreements here. Speaking from myself, not for my
> co-authors.
>
> 1) In other regions, having a similar RSA, the board has ratified similar
> policies (for example, LACNIC).
>
> 2) It is common sense, that the rules must be applied the same to all the
> members, so setting in a policy those rules and timelines, has the effect
> not of encroaching anyone, but clearly defining rules in an open and
> transparent way.
>
> 3) The community has always the right to decide the way rules are to be
> implemented, what timelines, etc., even for failure to complain with
> policies, because is only up to the community the right to setup policies.
>
> Anyway, even with those disagreements in mind, we need to understand if
> the impact assessment will be positive if we remove this text:
> ?AFRINIC shall consider that a member is persisting in non-compliance in
> case more than 3 confirmed violations happen in a 12 months timeframe. This
> trigger will be reset once there are no policy violations after 12 months?
>
> Is acceptable to allow the member to resolve the issue as indicated in
> section 5 of the proposal, with a specific timeline and clearly defined
> steps, or is that also a problem?
>
> Or there is anything else that will still be a problem with the current
> text of the proposal?
>
> We need to understand that, to avoid wasting time the authors and the
> community, in new versions that still may not be resolving the issues of
> the
>
> Regards,
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
>
> > El 23 mar 2026, a las 19:29, AFRINIC Policy Liaison via RPD <
> rpd at afrinic.net> escribi?:
> >
> > Dear Policy Authors,
> >
> > We wish to inform you that the AFRINIC Board has not ratified your
> policy proposal, Policy Compliance Dashboard ID AFPUB-2021-GEN-003-DRAFT02.
> >
> > This decision was made due to the proposal's potential impact on
> AFRINIC?s contract management of the Registration Service Agreement (RSA),
> as highlighted in the legal impact assessment of the proposal.
> > As a result, the proposal will be sent back to the RPD mailing list,
> where it is foreseen to expire in accordance with the Consolidated Policy
> Manual.
> >
> > Should you wish to continue with this proposal, we recommend that you:
> > Consider the impact assessment provided: Impact Assessment <
> https://afrinic.net/policy/proposals/2021-gen-003-d2#impact>.
> > Amend the proposal as required, with a focus on Sections 4, 5, and 6.
> > Submit the new proposal for discussion.
> >
> > While the AFRINIC Board has not yet called for a Public Policy Meeting,
> you have ample time to make refinements and request us, the Policy
> Liaisons, for support in drafting the proposal.
> >
> > Thank you for your continuous contribution to the AFRINIC PDP.
> >
> > Sincerely
> >
> > --
> > AFRINIC Policy Liaison.
> > t: +230 403 51 00 | f: +230 466 6758 | tt: @afrinic | w:www.afrinic.net
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>
>
> Saludos,
> Jordi
>
> @jordipalet
>
>
>
>
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