[rpd] Registration Opens for the AFRINIC-36 Public Policy Meeting

Tue Dec 9 19:56:57 UTC 2025

Seun,
I totally agree with you to a large extent, but I disagree that the former
co-chairs should continue.

Your argument on this should be the same for the board: this should be a
new era. Starting with the PDP did not envisage that something would drag
us back to an era where some people oppress others. Why do you want to
start again with controversial decisions that would divide the community?
Why?

We all agree that there are currently no co-chairs. We all agree that we
have a process for electing co-chairs. The world has not come to an end,
and it will not come to an end if we allow the process to play out and get
co-chairs through due process—not by circumventing the rules. That is
exactly what created the problem in the first place.

The board appointment went through a process, and yes, the outcome came
years later, but no one can say we don’t currently have a board. So why do
you want to create the same issue with the PDP?

I really don’t understand the big deal in waiting until a PPM. Even at the
next F2F PPM, I do not expect it to be a full-blown PDP. It seems we have
not learnt any lessons from the last few years. That is exactly how your
suggestion comes across to me.

This is my last word on this. Feel free to go ahead so that thier
legitimacy can always be questioned.

AK.

On Tue, Dec 9, 2025, 6:15 PM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:

> Hello Abdulkarim,
>
> Unless you have a specific reference to any section of the PDP that has
> not been followed or that we need to follow then I don't think your comment
> helps to make progress. I have indicated why waiting until face 2 face is
> not good enough and I further explain below.
>
> The PDP in its current wording (as per 3.3 of the CPM paragraph 2)
> envisages that at ppm a current Co-Chair term would expire and new Co-Chair
> installed. For reasons that we all know the pdwg didn't install a Co-Chair
> at the ppm yet.
>
> Normally there should even be no need for discussion and the current
> Co-Chairs should have just continued until next ppm but because of the lack
> of clarity and to address a situation that the PDP did not envisage the
> board stepped in with a way forward in good faith and also called the
> meeting tomorrow a ppm where I expect the pdwg will also formerly endorse
> the reasonable way forward provided by the Board.
>
> Abdulkarim you were once a Co-Chair and know what preparations are made by
> Co-Chairs before ppm so if there are no Co-Chairs now there will be no
> policy to discuss at face 2 face and I do not believe it will be a good use
> of our time to have a single item at f2f PPM.
>
> This is why I believe having that single item at tomorrow's meeting makes
> a lot of sense and then by face 2 face we have proper election/policy
> discussion.
>
> That said, we can also just agree that because no ppm has held and no new
> Co-Chair elected current one should continue that agreement can be either
> on this mailing list or/and at the meeting tomorrow. We don't have to
> complicate or suspect one another on this basic matter.
>
> Regards
>
> ----
> Sent from my mobile
> kindly excuse typos
>
> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025, 10:10 am Abdulkarim Oloyede, <
> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>
>> Seun,
>> The policy document is very clear of co-chair selection process.
>> Let us follow it. That is all I ask for. I dont think this should be
>> difficult.
>>
>>  None of the steps has been followed in the suggestion.
>>
>> AK
>>
>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2025, 3:54 PM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>>> Hello Abdulkarim,
>>>
>>> The rpd is for all policy related discussions and matter of Co-Chairs is
>>> very much a related topic, why do you call the current discussion of having
>>> a Co-Chair a back door approach?
>>>
>>> What is the rule that is not followed and which one needs to be
>>> followed?
>>>
>>> There is no way the meeting tomorrow will have policy items to discuss
>>> since there is currently no coordination and the Board has suggested a way
>>> forward, what I then expect is that there should be a few minutes tomorrow
>>> when the board will re state the message for the pdwg to endorse for
>>> formality and the Co-Chairs then continue to act at temporary chairs until
>>> when we conduct elections.
>>>
>>> Regards
>>> ----
>>> Sent from my mobile
>>> kindly excuse typos
>>>
>>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025, 8:10 am Abdulkarim Oloyede, <
>>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Seun,
>>>> The question is cant all these wait so that no one question the
>>>> legitimacy of the process. We always like the back door approch. Let the
>>>> rules be followed. Simple as ABC.
>>>>
>>>> AK.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On Tue, Dec 9, 2025, 1:54 PM Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>> Hello Abdulkarim,
>>>>>
>>>>> There is no rush to elect Co-Chairs but there is a need to have pdwg
>>>>> coordination and that is done by Co-Chairs. It's not just for the meeting
>>>>> tomorrow but for the pdwg itself.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are various policies at various state in the PD Process and
>>>>> someone needs to coordinate that in preparation for upcoming ppm next year.
>>>>> Discussions on the list and new policies needs to be coordinated so
>>>>> Co-Chairs are required for that reason.
>>>>>
>>>>> As it has been suggested before, current Co-Chairs can continue as
>>>>> temporary Co-Chairs until f2f ppm. The organisation leadership is restored
>>>>> so pdwg should function properly as well.
>>>>>
>>>>> Regards
>>>>>
>>>>> ----
>>>>> Sent from my mobile
>>>>> kindly excuse typos
>>>>>
>>>>> On Tue, 9 Dec 2025, 6:47 am Abdulkarim Oloyede, <
>>>>> oloyede.aa at unilorin.edu.ng> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Dear all,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> We have started again. Is it not possible to just follow the rules.
>>>>>> Why the rush?. Did we die when no rpm was held.  From the Agenda no policy
>>>>>> is being discussed. Therefore  Why do we need to appoint Co- chairs?
>>>>>> through the back door. Why? Exactly what got us to this point.  The Meeting
>>>>>> does not need co-chairs what is needed is just one person to guide the
>>>>>> meeting and outline how we can get back to the rules. The board chair or
>>>>>> someone from the boad can simply do that.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *Prof. Abdulkarim Ayopo Oloyede FNSE*.
>>>>>> *Professor of Wireless Telecommunications*
>>>>>> *Department of Telecommunications Science, University of Ilorin,
>>>>>> Nigeria*
>>>>>> *Director, Centre for Research Development and In-House Training
>>>>>> (CREDIT)   University of Ilorin *
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On Mon, Dec 8, 2025, 10:38 AM Ish Sookun via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi all,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I concur with Seun.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I don’t think that the Board acted in bad faith here. The rationale
>>>>>>> will be to allow this to proceed until we have the time frame for electing
>>>>>>> new PDCG Co-Chairs.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Regards,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> ———
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Ish Sookun
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Systems Architect at La Sentinelle Ltd
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> > On 4 Dec 2025, at 20:44, Seun Ojedeji <seun.ojedeji at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Hi Jordi,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I agree that conducting elections may be too late because what
>>>>>>> will be held in December is not really a full blown PPM. That said, I also
>>>>>>> see the point Sami is making, ultimately PDWG has to own the process as it
>>>>>>> is the PDWG that elects chairs or temporary chairs as (applicable) but I
>>>>>>> believe the Board has also acted in good faith.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Inview of this and considering that PDWG needs to own this process
>>>>>>> i like to propose that we accept the action of the Board to allow the
>>>>>>> outgoing Policy Development Working Group (PDWG)’s Co-Chairs, Mr Vincent
>>>>>>> Ngundi and Mr Darwin Da Costa, to serve as Co-Chairs until when we will
>>>>>>> hold a face 2 face PPM which should not be later than 30th July 2026,
>>>>>>> subject to any unplanned circumstances.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > The rationale for the proposal is to ensure some stability and
>>>>>>> coordination within the PDWG and also to allow enough time for planning for
>>>>>>> election. It will be good for anyone that opposes the proposed way forward
>>>>>>> to state their reasons as well with an alternate solution.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Regards
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > On Thu, 4 Dec 2025 at 09:34, jordi.palet--- via RPD <
>>>>>>> rpd at afrinic.net> wrote:
>>>>>>> > Hi Sami,
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I’m not sure if I’m understanding you correctly.
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > I guess the point (considering that we don’t have sufficient time
>>>>>>> for a full re-election) is to propose, as a 1st point in the meeting, a
>>>>>>> formal acceptance of the WG to continue with the current co-chairs until a
>>>>>>> complete election process can be arranged?
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > Regards,
>>>>>>> > Jordi
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> > @jordipalet
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >
>>>>>>> >> El 4 dic 2025, a las 15:57, Sami Salih <sami.salih at outlook.com>
>>>>>>> escribió:
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Dear Members of the Board and Community,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Thank you for your email and for the arrangements made for the
>>>>>>> upcoming AFRINIC-36 Public Policy Meeting (PPM), as well as for the
>>>>>>> continued efforts of Mr. Vincent Ngundi and Mr. Darwin Da Costa under the
>>>>>>> current exceptional circumstances.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> I would like to respectfully clarify—based on the AFRINIC Bylaws,
>>>>>>> the Consolidated Policy Manual (CPM), and the PDWG Guidelines—that the
>>>>>>> selection or election of PDWG Co-Chairs is a responsibility of the AFRINIC
>>>>>>> community through the Public Policy Meeting, and not the Board.
>>>>>>> >> For reference:
>>>>>>> >>     • Article 11.2 of the AFRINIC Bylaws authorizes the Board
>>>>>>> only to call and organize the Public Policy Meeting. This authority exists
>>>>>>> to facilitate the community in conducting its business, including the
>>>>>>> election/selection of PDWG Co-Chairs, but does not grant the Board the
>>>>>>> power to appoint or elect Co-Chairs.
>>>>>>> >>     •
>>>>>>> >>     • CPM, Section 3.3 states: “The PDWG Chairs are chosen by the
>>>>>>> AFRINIC community during the Public Policy Meeting and serve staggered
>>>>>>> two-year terms.”
>>>>>>> >>     •
>>>>>>> >>     • Both the CPM and the PDP affirm that all resource-policy
>>>>>>> development—including the selection of PDWG Co-Chairs—follows an open,
>>>>>>> bottom-up, community-driven model through Public Policy Meetings and broad
>>>>>>> community participation.
>>>>>>> >> In this context, and to align the upcoming PPM with the
>>>>>>> established PDP and CPM requirements, I would like to propose a small
>>>>>>> adjustment to the agenda:
>>>>>>> >> Reserve a dedicated 15–20 minute slot at the beginning of the
>>>>>>> meeting for the community to elect/select the new PDWG Co-Chairs.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> This adjustment would ensure that:
>>>>>>> >> 1. The PDWG session is chaired in full compliance with the CPM
>>>>>>> and PDP.
>>>>>>> >> 2. The community retains clear ownership of the policy
>>>>>>> development process.
>>>>>>> >> 3. The legitimacy of all subsequent discussions and decisions is
>>>>>>> fully maintained.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Thank you once again for organizing this important meeting. I
>>>>>>> would also like to take this opportunity to encourage the community to
>>>>>>> actively participate in the AFRINIC-36 PPM and in the PDWG processes, as
>>>>>>> strong community engagement is essential to maintaining a transparent,
>>>>>>> bottom-up, and community-driven policy development environment.
>>>>>>> >> With Regards,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Sami Salih,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Sent from Outlook for Android
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> From: AFRINIC Communication via RPD <rpd at afrinic.net>
>>>>>>> >> Sent: Wednesday, December 3, 2025 1:23:52 pm
>>>>>>> >> To: rpd <rpd at afrinic.net>
>>>>>>> >> Subject: [rpd] Registration Opens for the AFRINIC-36 Public
>>>>>>> Policy Meeting
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> [Version en français au bas]
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Dear Members and Community,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Pursuant to Article 11.2 of the AFRINIC Bylaws, the Board, after
>>>>>>> consultation with the Receiver, is pleased to invite you to the AFRINIC-36
>>>>>>> Public Policy Meeting (PPM) taking place online on Wednesday 10 December
>>>>>>> 2025 from 11.30 -13.00 UTC.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> The Meeting will provide the AFRINIC Community with the
>>>>>>> opportunity to reconnect and assess whether the Policy Development Process
>>>>>>> has withstood the challenges the organisation has faced. It will also
>>>>>>> discuss the way forward towards building an inclusive and collaborative
>>>>>>> community.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> In view of the exceptional circumstances, Mr Vincent Ngundi and
>>>>>>> Mr Darwin Da Costa, the outgoing Policy Development Working Group (PDWG)’s
>>>>>>> Co-Chairs, have graciously agreed to continue overseeing and coordinating
>>>>>>> the upcoming PPM, including the moderation of the RPD mailing list, until
>>>>>>> the selection of new Co-Chairs in line with established procedures.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> We would like to invite you to fully participate and register in
>>>>>>> large numbers for the AFRINIC-36 PPM.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Register for the AFRINIC-36 Public Policy Meeting here>>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/8xeAdz56RLuy9ynPaq1OnQ#/registration
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> The detailed programme for the Day is also available at:
>>>>>>> https://af36.afrinic.net/
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> We look forward to seeing you online soon for the AFRINIC-36
>>>>>>> Public Policy Meeting.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Kind Regards,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> AFRINIC Board of Directors and the Receiver
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> ……………………………………………………………………………………………………………………………..
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Chers membres et communauté d'AFRINIC,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Conformément à l'article 11.2 des statuts d'AFRINIC, le conseil
>>>>>>> d'administration, après consultation avec le Receveur, a le plaisir de vous
>>>>>>> inviter à la réunion publique sur les politiques (PPM) AFRINIC-36 qui se
>>>>>>> tiendra en ligne le mercredi 10 décembre 2025 de 11h30 à 13h00 GMT.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Cette réunion permettra à la communauté AFRINIC de se retrouver
>>>>>>> et d'évaluer si le processus d'élaboration des politiques a su résister aux
>>>>>>> défis auxquels l'organisation a été confrontée. Elle permettra également de
>>>>>>> discuter de la voie à suivre pour bâtir une communauté inclusive et
>>>>>>> collaborative.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Compte tenu des circonstances exceptionnelles, M. Vincent Ngundi
>>>>>>> et M. Darwin Da Costa, les co-présidents sortants du Policy Development
>>>>>>> Working Group (PDWG), ont gracieusement accepté de continuer à superviser
>>>>>>> et à coordonner la prochaine PPM, y compris la modération de la liste de
>>>>>>> diffusion RPD, jusqu'à la sélection de nouveaux co-présidents conformément
>>>>>>> aux procédures établies.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Nous vous invitons à participer pleinement et à vous inscrire en
>>>>>>> grand nombre à la PPM d'AFRINIC-36.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Inscrivez-vous à la réunion publique sur les politiques
>>>>>>> AFRINIC-36 ici >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> https://us02web.zoom.us/meeting/register/8xeAdz56RLuy9ynPaq1OnQ#/registration
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Le programme détaillé de la journée est également disponible à
>>>>>>> l'adresse suivante : https://af36.afrinic.net/
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Nous nous réjouissons de vous retrouver bientôt en ligne pour la
>>>>>>> réunion publique sur les politiques AFRINIC-36.
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Cordialement,
>>>>>>> >>
>>>>>>> >> Le conseil d'administration et le Receveur d'AFRINIC
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